cogman

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[–] cogman 4 points 1 hour ago

The strategy is wildly different. Kamala did reach out by abandoning popular positions and instead focusing on virtue signalling garage "I own a gun" "look at how tough on crime I am" "Liz Cheney likes me".

Bernie's message is different. It's M4A and worker's rights. He's not putting out different messaging from what he's always pushed for.

You want to say it's because he's a man, but that's not it. AOC and Elizabeth Warren both have similar messages and both are fairly well received.

Kamala's messaging failed because like Hilary it was essentially "Trump is bad, you have to vote for me" and nothing else. She failed to present any sort of plan for the US. I mean, FFS, she spent part of the campaign doing "me too" to Trump policies like no tax on tips.

[–] cogman 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No. It's obviously the space telescopes.

[–] cogman 3 points 2 days ago

I know, that's not lost on me. And you are right to ask the question.

[–] cogman 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No.

A trans woman wearing a dress is not porn.

[–] cogman 3 points 2 days ago

I'm getting ahead of the argument and laying out what I think is the reasonable position. I'm not really complaining, just want to make sure everyone is on the same page when it comes being sexually open.

Some well meaning people have damaged kids because they try and push sexuality too young from mistaken notions of what it means to remove the taboos of sexuality.

[–] cogman 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The summer wildfire and hurricane season is going to be wild.

Between gutting forestry services, national park services, weather services, FEMA... Yeah...

[–] cogman 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't really disagree. I wasn't trying to put the ages out as being a hard absolute on what should be taught when. It was more just to layout the progress of how sex ed should be taught as kids grow up.

I wouldn't say sex ed can be complete by 14. It's one of those things that I think should be retaught a few times as kids get older. Mainly because 14yo are likely to forget the lessons they learned.

[–] cogman 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Oh because I'm well informed enough to know that when talks about sexual normalization come up there's always going to be at least a few people that think that means normalizing it for very young children. It may seem obvious to you and I, it's not to everyone.

Take for example, this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Kentler

Normalizing sex is something that needs at least some nuanced discussion about what that means.

[–] cogman 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm less sure on if anyone has studied that (for obvious reasons). It would be more of "We are having sex and don't care if the child can see" sort of thing. The normalizing and exposure of sexual acts with kids is what's known as "grooming" and it's what child sexual predators use to coerce kids.

[–] cogman 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Showing a child porn or having sex while they are around. Those have the most definite negative effects. Stuff that borders that is trickier but, IMO, best avoided.

[–] cogman 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not saying kids shouldn't be educated on the biology, just that age matters and too young is associated in research with lifelong negative consequences.

Obv we can’t teach these kinds of concepts to children who aren’t at a level yet to handle regular biology classes.

Which I think we agree on. Teaching a 5 year old consent is proper, how sex works is improper. Teaching a 12 year old how sex works is proper, what various sex acts are is improper. Teaching a 16 year old the various sex acts is proper, especially if accompanied by a discussion of STDs, how to prevent them, and how to properly disclose to prior partners you have one.

Sex ed isn't just one lesson and what can be taught when is a gradient based on age.

[–] cogman 7 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Oh I think you've added an "ed" where I didn't (and didn't intend to). Early sex ed is a positive. Early exposure to sex is not. Sex ed isn't just about sex and there are aspects of it that can (and should) be taught quite young (like I outline above).

IE, you shouldn't be educating your 5 year old on the finer details of what a blowjob is. You should be working with them on the proper names of their genitals and the difference between good touch and bad touch. Both of those are sex ed that should eventually be taught to everyone before they become adults. However, age matters.

As to the negative consequences of exposure to sex acts. I'll point you to a page talking about child sexual abuse. Exposure is sexual abuse (and often a precursor to rape).

https://www.iicsa.org.uk/reports-recommendations/publications/inquiry/interim/nature-effects-child-sexual-abuse/effects-child-sexual-abuse.html

 

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