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Summary

The Trump administration’s move to withhold congressionally approved federal funds has sparked legal battles over the Constitution’s “power of the purse,” which grants spending authority to Congress.

Nonprofit groups and over 20 Democratic attorneys general have sued, citing violations of the Impoundment Control Act.

The administration argues the law is unconstitutional, potentially setting up a Supreme Court showdown.

Critics call it a “dangerous power grab,” while legal experts say past rulings limit presidential authority over spending.

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[–] NocturnalMorning 63 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's a fucking no brainer, any ruling other than, it's illegal and an invalid executive order is wrong and shows that the court system is corrupt as well.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait, that's your litmus test for corruption in the judicial branch? What about... - Gestures wildly -

[–] NocturnalMorning 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Corruption is a sliding scale. There's accepting gifts from companies corruption ala Thomas, and then there's clear violations of the constitutional separation of powers corruption, which is a lot worse. Neither are particularly a good look for the courts. But one of them ends in consolidation of power to the executive branch ceding arguably one of the more important responsibilities of congress.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Like handing a presidential election over to George W Bush?

[–] NocturnalMorning 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, that was a really shitty thing to do as well. I don't think the Supreme Court has the authority to tell states to stop counting votes. I was 12 at the timenof that election tho, so I didn't understand how consequential it was.

[–] TallonMetroid 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That should have been obvious when they declared the president king.

[–] NocturnalMorning 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fair point. I'm still pissed that the Supreme Court has basically ruled that president's are immune to prosecution while in office regardless of what they do. Such a stupid and obvious rule that will get abuse.

[–] TallonMetroid 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fact that Biden didn't immediately take advantage of that to purge the court for being blatant enemies of the republic was appalling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

"We need a Republican Party. We need an opposition that's principled and strong." - Joe Biden

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Or when the system was violently imposed by literal slavers.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I always knew I'd never see a dime of my social security and federal tax payments I've paid into my whole working life. I'm coming up on 40 and have been through several "once in a lifetime" financial crashes/resets, endless war in the middle east, etc and now fat orange is simply stealing the budget and never paying it back. You will never see that money, it's gone now. It's going into elons next business venture aka buying America from you without asking.

If you make it so nobody can retire anymore, then you'll be faced with 2 choices... Die at home crying not being able to afford care or medical aid or die fighting nazis.

[–] foggy -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I will take option 3 and, idk, fuck off to Norway or some shit.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago

Better be ready to live illegally then, nobody wants American refugees

[–] Doomsider 27 points 3 days ago

Perhaps the last thing the "conservatives" held true to was their respect for the Constitution. Now it appears even that has gone. They have completely converted their party to fascism now that they have betrayed every principal they have ever pretended to have.

[–] CuddlyCassowary 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why not just make it a real showdown at this point? Pistols at high noon in the Oval Office.

[–] finitebanjo 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately on Feb. 20, 1839, just one year after the Graves-Cilley duel, it became illegal to duel in the District of Columbia.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who's going to enforce it? If Trump agrees to a duel, it'll happen.

[–] finitebanjo 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but you just know he's going to send in his champion on his behalf.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If Jr gets taken out now, chances are we'll be dodging a lot of future problems. That's not a terrible outcome honestly.

[–] finitebanjo 2 points 3 days ago

His Champion would be a secret service former Navy Seal with more than 3 military campaigns.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Did I read that summary right, or did I have a stroke. The constitution is unconstitutional?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

The current administration has already tried to argue that the 14th Amendment (birthright citizenship) is unconstitutional.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

The Impoundment Control Act is what they're claiming is unconstitutional. And the thoroughly corrupt Supreme Court will almost certainly rule in their favor, I'm afraid.

[–] evidences 9 points 3 days ago

I think the white house is arguing that the "Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974" violates the constitution. I'm no lawyer and I don't know shit about fuck but I have no clue how that could be true.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I'm always surprised when an outdated pact between literal slavers is inconsistent, irrelevant, completely lacking, fundamentally corrupt, etc. \s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] rockSlayer 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Of course funding called the question and not the direct assault on the 14th amendment.

[–] Doomsider 4 points 3 days ago

Pretty sure the judge that blocked the birthright ED said it was "blatantly unconstitutional".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ohhh sooo exciting when those robed fossils come out to argue with a privileged man baby about their sacred documents... \s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] thedeadwalking4242 2 points 3 days ago

The rule of law is upheld by the documents supporting them.