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[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

"Barely breaking even" and yet he keeps getting richer.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

No you're not

Twitter broke barely even

You paid twice it's worth and then within 2 years got it to only 20% of its value, pushing away all power users and advertisers.

You're bleeding money like there is no tomorrow and you'll still be bankrupt or jailed soon enough. If not during Trump's presidency, then most certainly after it

[–] TehWorld 42 points 1 day ago

Bullshit. No way does Twitter make anywhere near a profit, and that’s NOT taking into account the payments on 44Bn.

[–] DaddleDew 320 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)
  • Claims in an interview that he is qualified to handle a social media company on the internet because he has "put internet in space"
  • Buys a financially struggling company for way too much money
  • Dismantles everything that made it attractive
  • Insults and fires the most competent employees who are trying to stop him from destroying the platform
  • Doesn't pay the employees he fired owed severance, further discouraging the best of the workforce from ever applying to work there
  • Turned it into something so repulsive and toxic that the users and advertisers start to leave
  • Told the advertisers to "go fuck themselves"
  • Tried to sue the advertisers into returning, further discouraging any new advertiser from ever doing business with him
  • Destroys the brand recognition by renaming it to a letter of the alphabet he personally likes but nobody else gives a crap about
  • Abuses his admin powers to steal a handle with the name he wanted from its owner, further eroding the user's trust in him handling the platform
  • Continues ruining the platform, turning it into his personal soap box to push his (toxic) ideas and abuses his powers to reduce the visibility of those he doesn't like while claiming to be radically pro-free speech.
  • Alternative platforms have gained momentum and have reached critical mass and will soon become the new default platform people will flock to. High profile users leave.
  • Whines and bitches about the company not making any money.

Hey guys, I'm starting to think that this guy's fortune has absolutely nothing to do with his skills at running a business

[–] VindictiveJudge 95 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Destroys the brand recognition by renaming it to a letter of the alphabet he personally likes but nobody else gives a crap about

I'm beginning to suspect he only likes that letter because it's the middle part of a swastika.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey, it's not just that! It's also decimal 88 in the ASCII table.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

🫣I see!

Elon uses X as ASCII 88 and Proton CEO uses 1011000 as binary ASCII

What about all these Nazi people everywhere suddenly?!

[–] Evotech 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In pretty sure Andy is born in 1988 to be fair

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hey guys, I'm starting to think that this guy's fortune has absolutely nothing to do with his skills at running a business

Great summary btw. and you are absolutely right here. He is a terrible manager.

Remember the time when he slept at the Tesla factory just because he didn't trust anybody and thought he himself must rescue it all by working so much overtime and make all the decisions.

[–] btaf45 8 points 1 day ago

He is a terrible manager.

I still can't get over how Musk told computer programmers to print out hardcopies of all their source changes, and then fly to Musk's city to show him the hardcopy. That alone proves Musk is the dumbest CEO of all time.

[–] GladiusB 31 points 2 days ago

Probably because his wife kicked him out for being an asshole.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

You forgot the part where couchefucker Vance threatened Europe to pull out of NATO if Europe wouldn't stop suing and leaving twatter

That paragraph above would normally be so bizarre that it wouldn't even make it to TV for being too... Out there... But this is the timeline we're in now, this is the new normal

[–] ThePowerOfGeek 22 points 2 days ago

Did you include the whole 'verified' tag fiasco in your list? I didn't see it explicitly in there, but maybe it falls under a general functionality fuck-up point.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

After Twitter already not being profitable. Add all the loss of marketing from businesses and users leaving, then the cost of all the bots and lawsuits.

How come it is "barely breaking even"? Who is paying them? Fascists?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Who is paying them?

Probably all the people paying $8/mo for a checkmark

[–] _stranger_ 7 points 1 day ago

He's laundering money through it most likely

[–] _sideffect 13 points 2 days ago

All the blue checkmarks probably helps, and the premium crap too

[–] [email protected] 109 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Turns out, nazi business is bad business

[–] random_character_a 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hopefully as bad as nazi archaeology

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[–] iopq 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A victory for the free market

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[–] xenomor 139 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I would be shocked if the company was actually breaking even.

[–] rational_lib 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think he's sugar-coating it because their bonds are about to go up for sale. From the article:

While equity investors have reportedly slashed the value of their stakes by as much as 78 percent, the Journal reports, “banks hope to sell senior debt at 90-95 cents on the dollar, while retaining more-junior holdings.”

If they were breaking even, the bonds wouldn't be getting sold at a loss. Keep in mind, the bond holders get paid before the stock holding investors, so if they're taking a loss, the equity investors are getting nothing (hence the 78 percent cut, basically their share is only worth the odds of a miraculous turnaround). That doesn't happen with a company unless it's losing money.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

At absolute best it's breaking even before debt service.

Maybe he's still not just paying rent on some buildings and miraculously hasn't been kicked out yet

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago

Aw geez, what a shame. As if Neo-Goebbels is going to shut his propaganda arm over something as trivial as money.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 days ago

Go fash; lose cash.

[–] acosmichippo 68 points 2 days ago

hm, someone told me it was so easy to cut wasteful spending.

[–] obinice 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

At this point if you're still working there knowingly building a powerful fascist gathering platform after so much time available to leave, taking dirty Nazi money as payment for your services...

I dunno man... should I feel bad for the staff, or are the remaining staff complicit enough at this point?

[–] _stranger_ 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Feel bad for the poor bastards stuck there on visas. Feel less bad about anyone looking around that can't quit but can't find another job. Would you hire someone who's still working at Twitter? I probably wouldn't even pull that resume for an interview.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

That's a point I had not considered. Twitter is resume poison, at this point.

[–] njordomir 7 points 1 day ago

Do they have employees on H1B? If so, that may be why they haven't jumped ship for less-Nazified pastures. Not excusing anyone, just striving to understand.

[–] girthero 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or maybe take a paycheck and do substandard job introduce bugs etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Heck, I'll even do that for a company I like!

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 days ago (8 children)

X has added some features, like job listings

Who the fuck looks for jobs on X?

[–] [email protected] 99 points 2 days ago

Nazis probably

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[–] DrFistington 19 points 2 days ago

If only they had competant management...

[–] Doomsider 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The advertisers are coming back, I swear!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Please come back, But do go fuck yourselves!

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's no fucking way they're breaking even.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@breakfastmtn @cm0002 it already bought an election, how much it is worth?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah. Bought an election for a bum who doesn't understand loyalty or how to pay his bills. Lol.

What a Dumbass.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 51 points 2 days ago

The man bought an election with disinformation and lobbying, who gives a fuck what he says about this company. Who knows what the fuck break even even means in his addled brain.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

Musk also said that the company could become cash-flow positive “within months” nearly two years ago, and it still faces over $1 billion in annual interest payments on the loans.

3 months maybe, 6 months definitely

[–] just_another_person 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They should be losing fucking money hand over fist, is the problem.

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[–] primehunter326 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

With the site now serving as an outlet for right wing narratives and misinformation that benefits the administration, there will be an incentive to prop it up financially if need be. Banks have been trying unsuccessfully to offload their debt used to finance the acquisition, so it seems investors aren’t as confident in the site’s long term profitability even with its newfound role.

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