How does this help men and women? I know how it hurts people, but who is HELPED by this?
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Fascists.
Edit: Whenever the question is "Who could possibly be helped by this?" the answer is "Fascists."
How? How does it help them?
Fascists need an “other” to demonize. They delight in the cruelty towards the “other”. The executive order gives them a sense of accomplishment, further strengthening the group bonds as they enjoy the suffering of the “other” together.
It really is as simple as “the cruelty is the point”. It helps them because they desire to inflict cruelty, and this gives them a method for doing so.
I don't think he delights in anything but having people tell him how great he is. This is textbook fascism. You got the part right thay they need an other group to demonize, just don't think there is even that much depth to them.
Oh I should have been more clear: Trump’s supporters delight in cruelty towards others. You’re right that Trump just does whatever makes his supporters cheer for him; he’s a textbook narcissist who craves attention. “Build the wall” for example, was a talking point his advisers gave him. He apparently thought it was stupid, but when his crowds of supporters cheered for it he went on to make it central to his campaign and identity.
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Because it is a clear demonstration of "We can do whatever the fuck we want, and you can't stop us," as well as a warning: "Don't piss us off, or we're going to do it to you next."
Edit: Also a message to other fascists: "You can do whatever you want, and they can't stop you."
It gives justification for discrimination. To make people who disagree or are affected less than human and thus atrocities against them do not count as atrocities.
No different than colonization or slavery. "We know better and will show them the error of their ways/put them in their place by force and systematic discrimination".
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I have a joke about this:
Someone once asked a Republican what he thought about a shooting in a Queer bar, he responded "thats horrible, I hear a Muslim did it. Those dirty savages will never integrate with western values".
So the person responded "oh so do you care about queer people now?", he responded "of course not, they harm womens rights".
So the person responded "oh so do you support womens rights now?", he responded "of course not, I think the rights of children should take precedence".
So he responded "oh so do you care about the children now?", he responded "of course not, they're leaches on society. I only support hardworking Americans".
So he responded "Oh so do you support workers rights now?", he responded "of course not, workers today are lazy, I support only the good religious Jewish and Christian workers"
So he responded "Oh so do you support Jewish people now?", he responded "Of course not, I hear they're extremely Islamaphobic"
So he responded "Oh so do you support Muslim people now?", he responded "of course not, I hear one of them shot up a queer bar"
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Congrats to all the "both sides are the same" folks who stayed home and handed this election to Trump.
65,000,000 eligible voters don't vote. Should have fought harder to get those butts off the couch to vote than just "but Trump". If you don't excite the base, they're not going to go out and vote.
Preventing fascism isn't exciting. It's a necessity. It's the civic equivalent of brushing your teeth.
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Same for the “establishment Democrats suck so I didn’t vote” as well. Because trump is so much better.
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They'd have to shoot me before I will ever deny my own womanhood. Not even with a gun to my head would I call myself a man. I lived in a closet for 18 years and it nearly killed me. It damaged me in ways I have to live with forever. I am a woman. They can say whatever the fuck they want it won't change that. I will not bow my head. If it comes to it, I'll die with my back straight, proud of who I am.
Don't worry. We got your back.
Thank you. Truly.
Glad you're here. As a fellow LGBTQ+ card carrying member, we are going to keep fighting even harder. Let this presidency radicalize you.
You have a lot of allies who feel similarly about being forced to be cruel to people we love and care about. Let's live through these terrible times with our humanity intact.
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Even setting aside people's gender identity, 1.7% of the population is intersex. A law can't make that untrue.
not sure how to tell you this, but they can absolutely uhm… change that number
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whats next, an executive order stating black people are only 3/5th of a white person? c02 isnt rising in volume in the atmosphere? that he isnt a literal hitler wannabe?
You're making jokes, but yes. This is a man that drew on a map with a sharpie to change the course of a hurricane. There's nothing stopping him from blatantly lying about the reality that is right in front of our faces.
The CO2 one isn’t far off and may actually be in that first 200 orders.
I've always said, religious people and puritans of all stripes seem way too concerned by other people's genitals. Just like perverts.
They are literal perverts!
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Even ignoring socially constructed gender identities, in the case of biological sexes, this is scientifically wrong. The world doesn’t fit into neat little boxes like these people think it does
Fascists think they can force the world into their boxes through violence and cruelty. We must never stop resisting.
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FINALLY! something to help LOWER those gas prices!
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lol so you can just sign executive orders to declare new facts into reality? why don't you declare people can fly, that would be cool.
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I wonder what their approach to intersex people will be..
If anyone is curious what other fascist regimes did: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex_rights_in_Germany
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Well, Trump says there are only two biological genders, but he said nothing about what percentage of each a person is allowed to have.
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I literally have to wonder if my NC Birth Certificate (updated to reflect my Gender Affirming Care) will still be valid or if I'll get a letter saying they found an "Error" and "corrected it"
I have to worry about the Government turning my boyfriend into a homosexual by declaring me a man, how the fuck do we even get here?
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Just ignore the outrage machine and focus on what things you can do to help. The outrage is only to make you tired. Sue when you must, support businesses, organizations, and politicians you agree with financially, vote in every election, don't add to any problem, and ignore Trump and his minions to the best extent you can.
What about hermaphrodites? Do they just pick their favorite?
No, "traditionally" it's picked for them right after birth.
Any surplus parts are cut off, problem solved.
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assess what type of DEI programs are still discriminating against Americans
The official said it was “very fitting” that the order was announced on Martin Luther King Jr. Day because “this is order is meant to return to the promise and the hope, captured by civil rights champions, that one day all Americans can be treated on the basis of their character, not by the color of their skin.”
I don't think I can handle four more years of this brain bending insanity. I've tried to understand where people are coming from. I've been of the belief that most of us are good people and want the same things. But trying to unpack the thoughts and whims of POTUS on a daily basis is just going to break my brain. I work at a computer all day so I'm not sure how I'm going to prevent myself from encountering this circus. I'm weighing the choice of living in blissful ignorance or in utter despair.
For over eight yers, my heart has hurt because of the sheer stupidity and ignorance taking control of this country. I am not seeing any signs of improvement. On the contrary, it seems very apparent that it's getting worse.
these fascist dipshits are everything they claim to hate. we are expected to just accept "their truth" when all of the evidence suggests otherwise, so pathetic.
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