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On Thursday, Rep. Andy Harris told Newsmax that money for wildfire aid isn’t a priority for Republicans because “we just put more money into FEMA before we left for the Christmas holidays,” and the Maryland Republican claimed that Los Angeles “mishandled the fire department so egregiously that they ought to bear some of the burden for that rebuilding.”

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[–] [email protected] 151 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's a sad state of affairs that this kind of news is so unsurprising, but if Democrats said screw the people in Florida who got flattened by a hurricane it'd be the story of the month...

[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Wasn't that the narrative being pushed after that bug hurricane this past fall? That FEMA wasn't passing resources to right wing counties?

Edit: "Trump also claimed without providing evidence on his social media platform, Truth Social, that the federal government and North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper were "going out of their way to not help people in Republican areas"" --Hurricane Helene Wikipedia Article

[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Persecution complex always at the ready. I did see one story where some segment of them had been told to avoid places with lots of Trump signs, but the reason was for the worker safety because of the hostility by the right wing. So basically in that case they created a self fulfilling prophecy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

but the reason was for the worker safety because of the hostility by the right wing.

Notably, local conservatives out firing guns at FEMA who showed up to try and save their lives.

If I'm helping save your life and you send a bullet whizzing past my head then yeah, I'm going to leave you where you are as well.

This, of course, was reported as "FEMA is refusing to help Republicans!" and not "Local Conservatives perform war crime, fire deadly weapons at humanitarian aid"

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[–] jj4211 9 points 6 days ago

Not just that, but some representatives were pissed because the broader Republican party seemed to want to undermine recovery efforts to make it look worse for Biden.. Then after the election asserting a bill was in the name of helping them while that bill still did nothing at all for those afflicted.

[–] jaybone 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Used to be they didn’t want FEMAs help because FEMA was going to put everyone in camps and steal their houses. Now FEMA is purposely ignoring them?

WHICH IS IT??? I can’t get my conspiracy theories to agree.

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[–] Frozengyro 8 points 6 days ago

They did go out of their way to not help them. And by they I mean Republicans

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They hate America, so this makes perfect sense.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 days ago

California should just withhold the money they pay the federal government to subsidize those lazy ass red southern states. Problem solved.

[–] JackFrostNCola 10 points 4 days ago

Aren't Red states essentially on welfare from the Blue states? Sounds like lashing out and projection

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Democrats should have treated Republicans like a foreign power interested only in the destruction of the country.

Because that's what they are

[–] T00l_shed 3 points 4 days ago

I mean the repubs are russian puppets... so yeah you're last sentence :)

[–] errer 64 points 6 days ago (7 children)

California should just secede. I’m not joking, what’s the point of funneling money to other states that don’t care about human rights, don’t come to our aid when we need it, and happily siphon all our tax dollars but fight any reciprocation? California could absolutely succeed as a sovereign nation.

[–] CaptnNMorgan 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It would be nice, but unless California has a militia on the same level as the US military, it wouldn't end well

[–] jj4211 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

While I agree it would go poorly, the way this would happen in theory is that the state would take their contributions to the federal military with them, and for California that would be a pretty sizeable chunk. So it's not just local police and national guard.

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[–] slickgoat 7 points 6 days ago

I'm not an American, but I heard that if California was a separate country it would be one of the top wealthiest countries in the world. The rest of the US is a tick on your butt. NY excepted.

I may be wrong.

[–] BassTurd 8 points 6 days ago (4 children)

We shit on Texas everytime they talk about seceding. Don't be as dumb as those people.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

California has the fifth largest economy in the world, Texas has half the GDP of California and still manages to post a net loss.

There's a reason we clown on Texas about it and that reason is because Texas quite literally cannot survive on its own but screeches constantly about threatening secession. California on the other hand would survive just fine without a single one of the entire rest of the States but they don't constantly remind everyone of that fact.

Texas gets made fun of for it because the answer to "Well what would you do without Texas, huh????" is.... I'd pay less taxes because Texas wouldn't be sucking down a bunch of surplus anymore.

[–] jj4211 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's generally because it's ridiculous and often right in the heels of some big illustration of how Texas benefits from the other states.

If the federal government did withhold aid, then that would perhaps be part of a scenario where California is tossing money at a government that will not reciprocate.

Now it may be premature, as this might just be posturing and even if they made it rough, there is every reason to hope that in 2 years than shift . But if this was a real and durable situation, I could see it being their only path to get some more negotiating power.

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[–] errer 11 points 6 days ago

Honestly I don’t care if Texas secedes too. Fuck em.

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[–] Cosmonauticus 62 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We're Republicans, we don't help ppl!!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Republicans are me/I people and if it doesn't happen to me, then I don't care. Think of all GOP that vote down any disaster aide til it hits their constituents.

Another one version of this I hear is "I don't need (ealcare/student loan forgiveness/ basic human decency) I alreadyhavr that. What do I get if I do that?"

A functioning society is not appealing to them at all. It's a party of selfishness.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hell, they were hiding from disaster aid calls in Florida while there's a hurricane coming through just so they could try to stick it to Biden.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They don't even help rich people at this point:

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well unfortunately he lives in a blue state in a blue county so... sol

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[–] ramenshaman 7 points 6 days ago
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This should be enough reason for California to secese. Join Canada!

See how well the US.does without the Californian economy (it would end in ruin)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Honestly, with the way things are going - Canada could very benefit from the entire Pacific coast seceding, along with New England, Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota.

Legitimately would flip the global economic status quo on its head, ‘eh!

[–] FlyingSquid 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

World's fifth largest economy, right? Maybe it could strike out on its own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

For sure. However, you'll want allies, no matter how powerful you are. Maybe a Schengen type situation would be interesting?

A lot of values are similar, make an open trade and travel zone?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Third largest if Canada's included!

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[–] b3an 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Wasn’t it so people stepped up to help Texas for example, when things got bad in the winter? Pretty sure that’s a republican state so, huh. I thought Religious conservatives would be all ‘love thy neighbor’.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That only applies to the ones they look directly in the eyes and learn the names of. If they don't personally know you, especially if you're from a blue state, lol get rekt

[–] b3an 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Mexican Firefighters came up to help California. I saw on another Lemmy post. So amazing!! The irony that Mexicans are better upstanding people than the Texans, and the Texans act like they’re gods gift to religion.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Haha I've never seen Republicans spousing actual Christian values in my lifetime. They will fuck you given the chance.

[–] Bahnd 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Thats cool, uncle joe has it covered. Link

The only other time FEMA and the federal government have done this was 9/11. Not even hurricane katrina or super-storm sandy got 100% federal relief funding (This policy was enacted in 2021 Link). The truely shameful part of this is that the GOP and 47 can not be trusted to not withhold relief funding because LA didnt vote for him. And if you think there isn't precident for this, Nixon did the exact same thing when he closed the Boston naval yard in the 1970s. Link

[–] FlyingSquid 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well he better get that aid to California in the next 9 days.

[–] Bahnd 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Then 47 will have to intentionally roll it back, and thats really not a good look. He is already operating on the slimmest majority, bad calls are not something he can afford many of. Its really a good political check (in a Chess sense) from Biden. With conservative media calling for 47 to not help, he is sorta damned if he does and damned if he dosent.

Or he will make up some new distraction like how were going to take ohio back from the yogurt or something crazy.

[–] FlyingSquid 13 points 6 days ago

Dictators don't need to care about congressional majorities. Or not looking good.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What was Ronald Reagan's famous line about “most terrifying words"? Something like "I’m the republican government, and if you need help you can go fuck yourself".

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Anyone appearing on Newsmax should be disregarded. And Andy Harris is a great example as to why. The man practically goes out of his was to avoid finding himself on the decent side of an issue. He’s a clown and an embarrassment to the state of Maryland.

I don’t know about any of you, but I will never trust or respect a doctor that spent the pandemic pushing plague rat bullshit.

[–] CheeseNoodle 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Who knows, maybe they really do believe in those principles of theirs and the problem will take care of itself as they die off one by one to natural disasters and never help eachother until they're all gone.

[–] FlyingSquid 18 points 5 days ago

Unfortunately, they're not the ones dying.

[–] JordanZ 21 points 6 days ago

Talking about egregiously mishandled things…

In a giant step for energy security, the infamously independent Texas grid (ERCOT) is preparing to connect to the U.S. grid. The Biden-Harris administration has committed a $360 million federal grant for this vast project as part of their Investing in America' program.

[–] ikidd 13 points 6 days ago (11 children)
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