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Definitely talking about unions if you're in the US. I single-handedly saved the company I worked for from a $10M+ data breach, got top performance reviews, and then got screamed at by my boss after I sent an article to a coworker about how UPS drivers had gotten massive raises by unionizing. I was fired a month later for "unprofessional conduct" with zero examples given and despite the protests of the rest of the team I worked with.
Yeah, my work has an anti-union section of the employee handbook. It says they are proud to provide such good benefits that a union isn't needed (definitely not true). And how we need to talk to HR first if we ever feel like our working conditions would warrant one. I suspect you wouldn't be allowed back to your desk if you did that.
Pissing in the coffee machine your boss uses, in front of a security camera.
Guy disappeared so quick, the CEO interrupted our daily IT stand-up meeting to disable his account and door chip.
At my last job, one of the presales guys was terminated instantly when he tried to expense a client meeting at a strip club.
(American version) Hand out union flyers in the break room.
As an American, how does this work in other countries?
you get the flyers from the company. unless its a non-union site, in which case you will usually have to climb over the picket line to get in. the one at tesla is coming up on 15 months now, the union have signalled that they have the funds to keep the strike going while paying every worker 125% salary for another... 200 years.
How do you know the union is working for you as opposed to for the good of the company?
There was one case where the company selected a union in the US that doesn’t give the workers much if anything
The Union at my job actively and intentionally made shit way worse, like, hilariously so.
generally unions are hierarchically structured so that one smaller union can call on the resources of their parent organisation. my employer has a collective bargaining agreement with a union representing "white-collar workers" (it's a more formal term here), which is itself a sub-union of the "central organization for professionals" which means that the sub-union sets the minimum terms and if the company fails to uphold them they get struck by all the sub-unions of the central org. since my employer is active all over europe, this may eventually escalate to the EUTC if bad enough, meaning the company would be seeing strikes all over the continent.
CBA's occasionally get renegotiated based on directive from the central organisations. this includes minimum yearly raises and such. currently we're just coming out of a negotiation period where raises were centrally agreed to 4.5% over two years, which together with inflation being higher than normal meant that most people's actual salaries went down. however, this was not a surprise, it came as a request from the central bank as a means to lower inflation back to normal, which to their credit seems to have worked. so in the short run it was a bit anti-worker, but it stabilised the industry which means i still have a job. my previous employer did not have a CBA, with the reasoning that their terms were better anyway (and they were but the point is is the "collective" part, not the "agreement" part) and when inflation hit them they basically randomly stopped giving raises. a few of my colleagues actually passed me in salary.
as for another pretty interesting example, the tesla thing. the strike they are currently facing is due to them being non-union. there is no rule saying they have to be, but in general auto makers are unionised. tesla has a standing policy to not talk to unions, and they are not doing anything wrong on paper, so the union is basically besieging them. people working for tesla generally don't want to be unionised (at least they say so publicly) so the strike is based on other unionised workforces (like electricians, postal workers, dock workers) refusing to do work for tesla. tesla are calling this behavior into question, and on paper it is questionable. it has prevented a lot of shit historically, so they won't get anywhere with it, but looking in from the outside it must seem a bit odd.
Good question. That takes a little research. You'll want to talk to a union that is capable of making collective agreements.
There are indeed fake unions out there with no other purpose than to take your money and keep you from organizing into the actual unions.
Contat the umbrella organisation if in doubt.
(UK) Last time I started in a unioned job the company (voluntarily?) told me about it during my induction, there were flyers in the break room, a poster in the break room with a named representative on my floor (a regular worker like me, it was voluntary) and official rep who I could call. Maybe once or twice a year the union did a presentation in a meeting room at the office and you could could take the hour (unpaid) to go and watch, after which you were encouraged to sign up. Semi regular emails through the year to my company email address about pay and bonus negotiation etc.
Worked in the UK, when I started my job I was given lots of hr forms, contract, info about benefits and leaflets for each of the two main unions that covered our workplace. If there was ever any issues, our line managers would remind us of our right to have a union rep present for meetings with management.
Simple: you don't fuck with unions. They are far more powerful in Germany. And Germany is the lower end even. 😅
All our took for me was being too highly paid, I think. Lay offs came and I went. Literally about to present the closing slides for the current phase of a massive project. Was so sure I was safe because of said critical project and was well regarded on my team. (I brought cookies even!) Maybe I was, maybe I wasn't. I was, however, the highest paid in my department.
What does iskaied mean
Isekai, Japanese for different world, is a genre of media usually about someone being teleported from the mundane world to a fantastical one.
And in this instance I mean the word jokingly, like instant teleported to "not having a job land"
Most any job I’ve ever had: drop a log on the boss’s desk
Two jobs ago: I worked at a teapot factory. If you walked the length of the plant floor and hit the emergency stop on each production line, that would be a good way to disappear quickly.
Bitcoin miner on the computers without permission. (Saw it happen once.)
We lost a guy who received verbal agreement on running Folding@Home, but didn't have it on paper. It was a large private cloud (data center).
TBF, he was folding at work
When I worked at CompUSA I would install Folding@Home on all the display computers. I don't think anyone ever noticed.
So you're responsible for them closing!
I know someone who was fired after responding to a Slack message with an emoji that was interpreted as critical of the CEO of the company, lol. The emoji wasn't offensive or anything, it was just showing support for the message which was if I remember correctly was jokingly criticizing the CEO. I think the employee took up a legal battle after that.
I think it depends on the job and the culture you are in, how replaceable you are, etc. as to how to be instantly fired. I know people who have made mistakes in their job that cost the company lots of money and they weren't fired. I know people who watched TV all day in the open office environment in full view and who weren't fired.
I know people who have made mistakes in their job that cost the company lots of money and they weren’t fired. I know people who watched TV all day in the open office environment in full view and who weren’t fired.
Yeah, but those things are not blows to the CEOs fragile ego like a good old misunderstanding can be.
Leave your porn on a network drive 5 times.
Though, surprisingly, watching porn on the plant computer isn't.
I know of a professor who did this with CP. Good news is he's in jail.
I work in a highly secured facility so... there's a LOT I could do to get instantly fired. The fastest would probably be trying to get through security with a weapon.
Me: Hey guys, I plugged in this wifi AP to the network so we can work and walk about.
People: uhh, what brand is it?
Me: Huawei, it was super cheap from a dude in the parking lot. Here is the ........... Why am I being harries away be security?
Support human life's and care about others. Usually will get you fired in America really fast.
In the sense of one day you're there, the other day you're not, may I suggest not realising that you're not looking after your mental health, having a total meltdown and finding yourself walking erratically up the road away from the place in a roughly homeward direction, followed by not being OK ever since?
Actually, no, I take that back. I suggest doing the polar opposite of that. Once that particular Prince Rupert's drop pops, it's an impossible task to put it back together again.
Also, when back looking at it, you'd begin to realise that the warning signs were there all along, so maybe everything wasn't so sudden, or isekai, as you put it, at all.
Unrelated: I can't not hear "he's a guy" when I hear "isekai".
Start telling everyone I interact with what I really think about them.
If some of the people I work with knew how little time I spend thinking about them, some egos would be severely hurt.
Go postal.