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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Its not an unusual thing for lesbian couples to pick a new surname for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure only people on the internet argue about this. No one actually cares what other's do with their last name after marriage.

This post has 2017 reddit vibes. Not in a good way either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

People literally change their names because they feel like it, so I'm sure people do care outside the Internet, specially in circumstances of abuse.

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[–] [email protected] 271 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Sorry OP but this kinda gives "EPIC: WOKE FEMINAZI OWNED ON CAMERA" vibes.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey 119 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

Yeah... it can be interpreted that way. But even as a feminist myself, it is a dumb performative sort of protest. Paternal surnames are the least important fixtures of our patriarchal society, and, unless it was created wholecloth, there are no surnames that aren't patriarchal historically, as the meme points out.

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[–] surewhynotlem 35 points 3 days ago (5 children)

That's the point, but satirically. The fact that homelander is the second frame immediately means the take is bad.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Sweet child... The amount of people who don't see homelander is scary

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

OP's comments don't seem very satyrical :')

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

I don't think that's obvious to anyone who hasn't watched that movie/series/whatever. At least it wasn't obvious to me, because I don't know that guy.

[–] tomi000 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not so sure. It may just as well be that OP thinks Homelander is the cool guy and the meme is meant unironically. Their comments here suggest that and their posts are mostly comprised of golf and borderline sexist / boomer jokes

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It’s one of those posts that IS funny, but makes OP’s viewpoint ambiguous. And if this was reddit, incels would come out of the woodwork to support the meme.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

with no ill will for you, OP, genuinely fuck this boomer ass “joke”

a woman’s name is her name. she lives with it for 1 lifetime, absolutely no shorter than her grandfather does. “male” is not somehow the default human identity. stop trying to enforce that standard.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Love the little respectful preamble you put there, can we make that internet discussion standard plz.?

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I think the point of the joke might be more that an attempt to start a matrilineal naming scheme is foiled somewhat from the fact that the maiden name of the mother is derived from her father, i.e. you can't escape that the last names all come from patrilineal sources for generations.

[–] glitchdx 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If a woman is committed to the idea, she could break the patrilineal naming convention simply by creating herself a new last name, and encouraging her children to take that name instead of their father's.

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[–] vzq 159 points 3 days ago

It’s a shit post, I’ll give you that.

[–] LesserAbe 101 points 3 days ago (41 children)

When people get married they should come up with a completely new last name for them both.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 3 days ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 80 points 3 days ago (2 children)

our beautiful baby boy Robert 3de2d34e-a089-4a5a-acd8-b00d7c7eb07a

[–] radicalautonomy 20 points 3 days ago

I mean it's not far off from Musk's X AE ZigZag VII Advent Children and Kkkopernicus Diceware Password kids.

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[–] cobysev 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

A coworker of mine did this. He and his new wife took parts of their last names and blended them together to create a unique new last name for both of them.

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[–] CaptPretentious 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Terrible idea. People clearly already struggling at naming kids. Coming up with a family name will be endless letters making the wrong sound, random sections being 'silent', so many puns or references to things, corporate advertising "oh it's the X.com family!"... Terrible, just terrible.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I know this is a shitposting community but these are, every goddamn one of them, the dumbest possible takes you could have opened a new year with.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Make up your own surname to assert dominance. Or go by your internet handle.

[–] ameancow 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Reminder that surnames didn't exist before the middle ages, you just had a singular name that people shouted to get your attention. Since you lived in a community of several dozen people, you didn't need to do much to differentiate yourself from the other "John" in your town because everyone knows each other. You lived and died just as "John" and would be remembered by your kids for a generation if you were lucky. There was no need to keep track of genealogy, you were a pair of hands and legs, you were supposed to get out there and plow that field and that's all your baron or lord cared about.

But somewhere after the black plague ravaged Europe and we lost a sizeable chunk of the human population, suddenly workers became in high-demand. Industrialist lords and landowners suddenly didn't have people smithing their horse shoes or making their bread, so they had to go poach people from far away towns and suddenly workers had power and options. As a way to get noticed for your family's tradeskill, you would have been wise to advertise this to wealthy employers, the best way was to attach your trade to your name. You were now John Baker to differentiate yourself from John the Drunkard if anyone came looking to hire someone who could cook bread.

So surnames are advertising. It's all it's ever been. There's nothing ancient and special about your name, it was just how your ancestors tried to make a buck.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (32 children)

Unpopular opinion: Last names are inherently patriarchal and so is marriage

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (7 children)

On Spain we have two last names, one for the father other for the mother.

And while before the father's was always the first, since many years couples of newborn babies can choose the order of the surnames.

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[–] dingus 16 points 3 days ago (22 children)

Yeah I've always thought it was weird that women are supposed to give up their identity to a man to be married. I'm not really sure why hyphenated names aren't as popular in the western world or why people don't occasionally chose to take the woman's name. I know that women don't have to change their names, but then often you'll have the kids as the same name as the father anyway but not the mother. So I've heard many women say that they did it so their kids would share their last name.

Hell, I don't even like my father. But my name is who I am and I like it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

why yall having a war in the comments? its a silly meme about last names, who the actual fuck cares?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Because their entire poltical and world view is based on identity politics. They cannot simply say "that joke sucked" and move on, they have to make it into yet another virtue signalling exercise and lecture everyone else because that is the behaviour they associate with being a "good person".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably anyone who ever gotten any pressure about handling last-names after marriage might care. It's definitely something that some people care about, and some people cop flack for their decision.

The joke is just a joke, but the problem is that this joke punches down. That's generally poor form.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if you are getting "punched down" (aka offended) by a joke posted on lemmy, by a random guy, you should realize that it is simply not that deep

yeah i didnt get any pressure about handling last names, so you might say "you just dont get it" but when i go to linuxmemes and see a meme about a distro i use, i dont go to comments and start a war about it bc it is just a fucking meme, same concept

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[–] madcaesar 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People online do not understand jokes. I refuse to believe anyone in real life would be this dense.

In real life people would see this lol and move on, on the internet they write dissertations about some BS to virtue signal to other strangers how enlightened they are..... 🙄

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[–] UnfortunateShort 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Jokes on you, my dad took my mom's name

[–] bradd 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Your dad took your mother's dads name.

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[–] RBWells 25 points 3 days ago

Yeah, my mom said she didn't care about taking my dad's last name, that it didn't matter since, in her words "women don't have last names anyway" they are just a way of tracing men's family lines.

[–] fargeol 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you didn't know, Spanish people have two names: the first name of their father and the first name of their mother.

Since these names are their grandfathers names, here's a better proposal : the first name of your father and the second name of your mother. In that case, your first name corresponds to a bloodline of men and your second name to a bloodline of women... Unless their was a same-sex couple in your family, obviously.

Bonus point, since you get your Y chromosome (if you have one) from your biological father and your mitochondrial DNA from your biological mother, your names correspond to your actual DNA... Unless you're adopted or illegitimate, obviously.

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