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[–] givesomefucks 98 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Fresh off hip replacement surgery, Nancy Pelosi, 84, secured another victory. House Democrats on Tuesday afternoon decided that 74-year-old Gerry Connolly—who announced his throat cancer diagnosis in November—will serve as ranking member on the House Oversight Committee, besting 35-year-old Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in a closed-door caucus vote. “Gerry’s a young 74, cancer notwithstanding,” said Virginia Democrat Don Beyer, a Connolly ally. Pelosi had opposed the 35-year-old’s run for the role, “approaching colleagues urging them to back Connolly over Ocasio-Cortez,” Axios reported last week.

Don Beyer is also 74, which is why he won't say 74 is too old.

These people won't step down, as painful as it may be we need to primary them completely out of office if we want a chance against fascism.

[–] Sanctus 59 points 1 month ago (4 children)

A young 74? The fuck did I just read?

[–] foggy 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cancer notwithstanding, guys.

[–] frunch 11 points 1 month ago

So 74, with health problems to boot 🤸‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

The definition of Cronyism.

[–] Maggoty 21 points 1 month ago

When you live and work in a retirement community standards shift.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

A lie directly to your face?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Vote only for candidates who promise to fight for maximum age limits for all Congressional, executive and judicial positions. End the gerontocracy.

[–] givesomefucks 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The party can legally just ignore primary votes and name anyone for any spot in the general.

If push comes to shove, I really can't say for sure that they'll all hand the keys over if it's a wave. I think there's a decent chance the close ranks, and if any state party doesn't, the DNC cuts them off. Like, for the last decade they been standing on a pile of dynamite threatening to drop it if we don't do what they say.

Especially with age related cognitive decline, I think they'll drop the match honestly believe they're doing what's best.

Which is exactly why they need to go.

[–] btaf45 9 points 1 month ago

The party can legally just ignore primary votes and name anyone for any spot in the general.

In the same way that the US government can just ignore its own Constitution without violating any international laws.

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[–] ieatpwns 19 points 1 month ago

Vote for candidates that aren’t a fall risk

[–] WoodScientist 16 points 1 month ago

We need a lot more Luigis at this point.

[–] WoodScientist 86 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The Democratic Party needs to be burned to ashes. And I say this as a Democrat. It's time for it to go the way of the Whigs.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Nancy Pelosi, 84

She should have retired from professional politics 19 years ago.

[–] Botzo 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All government employees should have mandatory retirement at the maximum social security benefit age.

Just kidding, that would only be a recipe for removing a maximum benefit age and just graduating it at a stupidly low rate to age 100+.

I hate this timeline.

[–] kofe 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Age isn't inherently a bad thing in politics. We're a representative democracy, and older adults deserve representation reflected as equally as any other eligible voter demographic imo (which could include felons and other disenfranchised populations where possible, but that's a whole other convo).

It's disproportionately skewed due to lack of term limits, it's often safer for parties to run an incumbent, and there's benefits to having someone with the experience stay in, so idk. I don't have a ton of solutions by any means, just want to push back on the ageism and add some nuance here. Bernie's still out there doing a his job representing the demographic well

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Age isn't inherently a bad thing in politics. We're a representative democracy,

I am not a workaholic. I want to retire from my profession some day, not continue working while in hospice care.

I want to be represented by someone who understands and shares my values, which includes a desire to enjoying life after retirement.

I want my representatives to value and promote the idea of recreation, hobbies, volunteer work, etc. Which means they will be retiring from professional work around 65, not 90.

Being of retirement age is an inherently bad thing in professional politics.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Age is a problem cognitive decline is real and no one escapes it. These 70 and 80 year old people aren't mentally competent.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It’s disproportionately skewed due to lack of term limits

Term limits do nothing but empower civil servants and the parties' bureaucracies. They haven't achieved better governance anywhere they've been tried. The endless revolving door just makes it more important for careerists to seek patronage.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

Were basically governed by an HOA board.

[–] UsernameHere 31 points 1 month ago

If we don’t elect more progressives into the Democratic Party then progressives wont be able to make decisions in the DNC let alone win elections against the GOP.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

the party would rather have members who play nice with money and power and make public pointless grandstanding actions in public rather than members who connect with the actual people, listen to the people, and fight for the people.

with 3 exceptions, I have always voted for the democratic candidate in the 22 years that I have been eligible to vote. and I refuse to register with the party because the national party does stupid shit like this. it's as though they are intentionally trying to never join the party. and yet I get bombarded with fundraising emails and snail mail. MEIN GOTT the begging.

i vote for democrats because they are closer to where I am and they are viable. how many nonpartisan voters like me aren't that tactical and stay home and cost themselves elections?

before this election I was not in favor of an electoral age cap for office. now I'm strongly in favor of one. it's clear as day that these gerontologic electeds who have been in office since clinton and bush, the first bush, that they are so out of touch that mercury has a better chance of touching pluto than they are with the base of the party. vote out all of the olds. I don't just want them not in power but still in office because then they could still have influence behind the scenes. get them away from the controls of power.

[–] capital 24 points 1 month ago

“Gerry’s a young 74, cancer notwithstanding,” said Virginia Democrat Don Beyer, a Connolly ally.

Fucking LOL

[–] Nunar 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At this point I only want to vote for one thing. Term limits.

[–] francisfordpoopola 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When she won the Speaker vote she immediately came out and said she would focus on bringing the Demo party back together. Not ensuring the country gets the best product... But ensuring they were as tight as possible. That told me what she really cares about. Don't even look at her stock purchase history... Shit.

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[–] thisphuckinguy 16 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

is she the trump of democrats?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No, she's the Mitch of democrats.

Trump is a cult leader, Mitch is an old guard back room dealing politician who doesn't care about anyone but himself. Not dissimilar to feinstein who tried to break the internet and the concept of security in general before the blackness saved us from her. But then, what does California do but replace her with a generic back room old guard white man rather than the one person who voted against the war in Iraq. We do this to ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's no "we" here. It's the rotten, corrupt leadership of the Democratic Party. And what that means is that, if there's to be any effective resistance to Trump, it sure as shit won't be the Democrats who organize it. They'll be right there, alternately triangulating and enabling the motherfucker.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Voters had a three way primary and voted for Adam Schiff. There's a we. Blaming the unspecific monolith of the Democratic party for everything that happens while simultaneously claiming they are incompetent buffoons is what republicans do.

[–] TheDemonBuer 13 points 1 month ago

A few win, most lose. That's America.

[–] WoodScientist 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If Trump does go full dictator, the only upside will be that all these self-serving greedy old bastards will be the first against the wall.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

No they won't. They know how to play the game and they'll throw everyone else under the bus to save their own skins.

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[–] nutsack 7 points 1 month ago

term limits should be 6 months

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Why is this still legal?" sasy, someone who doesn't vote for change and has no ambition to vote every cycle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Only one party is promoting change, and it's not the kind of change I want to see.

[–] postmateDumbass 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Democratic Party is bought and paid controlled opposition.

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