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All three of them aren't worth much, truth be told.
The raccoon I just saw rummaging through the trash bin has more value as a human being than all of them.
It's weird how in English you say "he is worth x" if you just mean he has x money/assets
Is it not considered worth or net worth for you?
I don't want to argue against the correctness of the sentence in English (I think you're correct with that). I'm just uncomfortable by the conflation of two meanings. This makes:
"He spent his last penny" technically the same as "He is worth nothing"
So a rich person is "worthy", which also means they are good, have achieved good things, and we are happy they exist. A poor person is "unworthy" and we can throw them away like garbage. That conflation is a problem to me.
I'm from a primarily English speaking place and you're absolutely right. The phrase is completely bizarre. Like we could talk about assets, but we equate it to the person, and it's a phrase that comes from the upper echelons of the capitalist ruling class and now everyone uses it. Like we've all just accepted the reality that our society doesn't care about people unless they can pay.
Worth and worthy are very different words though.
Elon Musk is now worth more than the 2nd ~~richest~~ greediest man (Jeff Bezos) and the third ~~richest~~ greediest man (Mark Zuckerberg) combined!
Imagine every single minion stopping to work for him. Even the bankers. He'd be stranded and helpless. No family member (if there still are any) would help him for free.
That's why they demand those "other" women be baby factories.
In my opinion Elon is worth shit, but I'm no native speaker, hence I might be confused by the phrase.
Bernie will remain our lost opportunity.
Can we please stop calling someone "being worth" x amount of money? It's disgusting on a fundamental level.
In Germany, some people call people on the bottom of the money pyramid "socially weak"...
Disgusting as well. Whoever has billions and doesn't help otherd, is socially weak!
Yes!
I guess we can't exactly say he has more money, but we could say he has more "wealth."
But he's about the most worthless piece of shit on the planet.
Okay lets brainstorm, they are all parasites on society, they are not more worthy than anyone else, but "king" has a sort of good vibe to it for many people so...
Something along Robber Baron? But again, baron is kind of cool.
Gangster? Too cool.
Oligarch is for russians right?
Child prince, too demeaning.
Hyper burglar, too complicated.
Thief sounds good IMO but they steal so much, and in history we've always been facinated with oeople being able to do that (kings, dragons, and actual thiefs).
Bureaucratic parasites? Because they steal the work by shuffling the papers. Also doesn't sound "cool".
Accountant or clerk seems to be what they actually are, cooking the book on the whole society.
Elon Musk: super clerc.
Zuccenberg: society accountant.
Bill Gates: fraudulent clerc.
...
i was thinking about this the other day. i know the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is disputed but i think there must be something to linguistic relativism. like, in english words describing wealth are all tied to "worthiness", and we talk about being wealthy as being more good.
in my language words describing wealth are all tied to effort: the ability and/or will to do something is "förmåga", and if someone is wealthy they are "förmögen", which i'm not entirely sure of the conjugation for but intuitively i read it as "has expended effort". this is a more neutral term, and our class divide has historically been much shallower than the anglophone world. of course this is mostly due to different social systems but... why were they put in place ho begin with?
Luigi needed more bullets.
There's a little Luigi in all of us.
I’d certainly like a little Luigi in me.
Anyone know how this is being accounted for?
Which of his assets gained him like 200+billion in the last year?
I know twitter lost value after he financed it through the saudis, so he must have gained somewhere else, anyone want to save me a Google?
Politics.
this is stock value, and he gained the ~200B since the 6th of November.
So if I own a single dollar and tell everyone it's a trillion worth ... does that make me rich or am I a fool?
a fool, until someone believes you.
A fool unless you can convince an entire market that it’s a trillion dollars worth.
Look up unlimited money limited. It was a real company
Max Fosh is an absolute madman. Casually got the richest man in the world for like 2 days.
No, it has to be something more imaginary than a dollar, and someone else has to actually give you a dollar for it while you claim it's only one trillionth of the amount of imaginary things you could sell to people.
Note a while ago a youtuber did a stunt to illustrate: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8SYIksrZeu4
this just shows how much the game has no basis in merit or reality.
Makes me want to bring it all back to tribes and shitting in the woods. We can play the nobody gets shit if we dont game too.
thats how I am with consumerism and buying stuff now. in the sense of like. you know what. I can still read books ya bastards and I don't need most of whats being sold.
And he’s just been put in charge of destroying all the things fed side that actually do help the working class.
This, our situation, could be worse. And this South African child of Apartheid has the power to make it so.
Ultimately, there can be only one, which is why J. P. Morgan scared Andrew Carnegie quite a bit. They just didn't get to the part where Morgan would actively bring Carnegie to ruin.
The rich are tasty even to other rich, though they'll eat the rest of us first because we can't defend ourselves or escape.
What will it be once he gets his hands on the government? He is poised to line his pockets at an unbelievable scale.
Oligarchy!
And his dad has still never loved/hugged/respected him.
Elon Musk is worth less than Vladimir Putin, and any number of Saudi Arabian royals
Elon Musk is worth less than Vladimir Putin, and any number of Saudi Arabian royals PROVE IT! Submit some links for everyone to read.
Every article about Putin's net worth lists it at $200 billion
Also, people like you always claim there's some Saudi that is richer but there's never any proof.
Also, the Saudi oil barons are wealthy families so the money is split among many.
Look, when Bezos or Musk are worth $200 billion you can speculate if Putin
is richer but Elon is now at nearly half a trillion.
PROVE IT! Submit some links for everyone to read.
The actual fact is, xelon is really only worth 3 rubles. And he has some money. Chicken manure has more value than him.
But he is the king you know, gotta treat 'im with respect.
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And he doubled it from last year... system is fucked
worth at least that much more than them dead too
I'm gonna laugh so hard when the billionaires start fighting. The leopards forgot they have faces too.
Correction. I do not know who the wealthiest person on Earth is, but it is certainly not Musk, or any of these freaks. They are all paupers before me.
I have something Elon does not have. I have something Elon won't have. I have something Elon is, in his very heart of hearts, utterly incapable of having.
Enough.
And that's just white declared. Ia nothong xompared to the amount of money some oligarchs has in black. Moving around in the not seen business