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[–] [email protected] 186 points 2 months ago (3 children)

An entire industry built on taking money they didn't earn to deny the care our doctors prescribe for us... Are we stupid??

[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I mean, the electorate keeps voting for people who won't pass health care reform so.. Yes?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

worse, we vote for healthcare reforms that would take us back to when no one poor got any care at all. we elected our own killers

[–] RagingRobot 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Those people are the only options on the ballot though. We can't vote for something that's not an option

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The fuck are you talking about? First of all, primaries exist. Secondly, with only a few notable exceptions, Democrats favor single-payer. The original ACA was a government healthcare bill with a private option but Joe Lieberman was the holdout and gutted it. Stating otherwise is intellectually dishonest and deliberately ignorant, or at worst a malicious rewrite of history.

[–] RagingRobot 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In the last primary who was calling for a switch to a single payer healthcare system? None of the candidates were talking about that.

Joe Liberman left office in 2013. That was 11 years ago.

What the fuck are you talking about about?

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[–] leadore 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It was a private system with a public option, but 6 of 1, half a dozen of the other I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Not only that , but voting for the people who are promising to make it even worse.

[–] ChicoSuave 4 points 2 months ago

Propaganda told them to.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

Are we stupid??

Yup.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's not stupidity, because over 99% of us didn't have a choice. It's greed. Greedy little piggy leaders of major systems designed to fuck over everyone but them.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 139 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Good. Burn it all down and replace it with universal healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Like every other modern country! They all get better care for less money!!!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No, you see, America is bigger so it won't work for some reason

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Just ignore economies of scales you little working class peasants. That doesn't work here.

[–] A7thStone 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's because they have more people per capita, duh.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Awfully optimistic of you to expect that it'll be replaced by anything better.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If I don't have even a shred of optimism my mental health would be x10 worse. I need it, swiper no swiping. 🙃

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago
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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 68 points 2 months ago

Burn the industry to the ground.

[–] peopleproblems 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is it 0? No?

Have a ways to go then.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 8 points 2 months ago

Same goes for number of biz execs/CEOs.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What shit timing for this... Imagine if this happened like a year ago. Maybe Democrats could have actually had a reason to be pushed to talk about this... Seeing how even Magoos were happy the guy got killed maybe things could have been different.

We live in the stupid timeline though so somehow this will just get worse :/

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago

1/3+ of the party wanted Bernie. Twice. And they couldn't be arsed to talk about it, his primary policy position. They're still not taking about it. Too much donor money involved for them to give a shit what their voters say.

[–] njm1314 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Had a reason? They already had a reason. They had thousands of reasons. Thousands of Americans dying due to the shit industry. Is that not a reason enough for Democrats?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They always had the excuse of "people love their healthcare!" That's the line that was always trotted out. It would be pretty difficult to keep that line when we're literally executing healthcare CEOs and having a positive nationwide reaction to it.

If journalists would actually do their proper duty for the population and not their masters (lmao) they'd start pushing representatives on the topic as it relates to the response.

(Instead though we get articles like "Bad luck Brian was the working class hero, not Luigi" from the NYT. 🤮)

[–] krashmo 12 points 2 months ago

Bernie's Medicare For All plan has been out there close to a decade now and I would argue that proposal is a huge part of his popularity. Democrats knew that and they told him, and by extension his supporters, to go fuck themselves. They know people want this but they don't care.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good. Shareholding and profiteering off healthcare should not be a thing. It should be a government service not a business, although I'd bet a million dollars I don't have, that it won't happen under Trump. And if it ever does happen, they had better fucking plan it to be rock-solid against ruthless cutthroat cheating grifters like him.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Portip: short stock. Pump bullets into CEOs. Profit from dump.

[–] chiliedogg 29 points 2 months ago

That's an actual series of missions in GTAV

[–] thermal_shock 5 points 2 months ago

magdump/stockdump

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm not entirely sure why the stocks are falling. Does anybody think they're going to tidy up their profit margins? They're going to walk around in armored limousines with security details. And the new administration is going to make absolutely certain they can still bulldoze their way through.

[–] davidagain 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

One of them already walked back a "we will limit the amount of anaethestic you're allowed in surgical procedures" they'd announced.

The market sees that the CEOs fear for their lives and want to make it sound like they care rather than deny care, so profits will fall, because paying for healthcare is a lot more expensive than paying a call centre worker to say no.

Hence the industry as a whole is less profitable, because, you know, what with death being so unpopular suddenly these days amongst healthcare CEOs.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

For once, we have a good news.

[–] garretble 20 points 2 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like tHe mARkEt thinks something will gut the industry. But there is no indication of actual real change happening. So what's going on?

[–] Seasm0ke 11 points 2 months ago

The rich are experiencing fear and reacting emotionally.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Most of these ghouls only care about money, so maybe this will help

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