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Summary

Despite Donald Trump’s promise to avoid Social Security cuts, recent signals from the new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, suggest reductions may be forthcoming.

The department, aimed at streamlining federal spending, has sparked concern among advocates worried about potential impacts on the program.

Trump’s mixed messaging and DOGE’s focus on cost-cutting have intensified scrutiny as officials prepare policy recommendations.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

We live in the stupidest timeline.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago

Go ahead, ya swarmy fucks. You think a CEO denying healthcare is the last high profile death, take the last of everything, from those who have so little, and no bunker or hired goons will save you. Mark my words, when backed against a wall, they will lose. History has proven that over and over again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I just hope they do it fast enough for my parents to feel the acute effects... I don't know any other way to possibly snap them out of this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago

We all know they will just blame the left somehow.

[–] riodoro1 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You fuckers got Musk as a politician now.

He’s even posing for pictures with his kid. The only one dumb enough still to not fucking hate him.

America is a meme state at this point

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

He’s even posing for pictures with his kid. The only one dumb enough still to not fucking hate him.

Oh, the child has nothing to do with posing, he's just afraid for his life since the UHC CEO got shot and hopes having a child around is a detriment

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Always the same:

Shitty thing they’re rumored to be planning to do: oh, we’re not going to do that. 6 months later, press finds out they’re planning to do just that.

Good thing they say they’re going to do: never happens. They’ll keep saying they’re gonna, though. Planning to make a plan to plan the good thing.

[–] kreskin 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So they charge us for social securityin our paychecks for our entire lives, just to take our money away before we can retire, and just keep what they took.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

The writing has been on the wall for a while now. All retirement planning I've done is based on the assumption that SSA won't be around by the time I retire. The fact that we can't even remove the taxable maximum to retain some degree of financial solvency is proof enough.

I think the most likely course of action is that we will get some portion of our contributions back, but not the full amount. I just hope that they don't raise the retirement age so much to try to retain the illusion of being able to get a full payout. I'd rather get a fraction of my contributions back at 67 than need to risk living to a much older age but receiving full benefits.

[–] CharlesDarwin 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A government being "led" by fucking internet trolls. This is what the world has come to.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Where's Mario Mangione to take care of the problem?

[–] GoofSchmoofer 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It gets so tiring to hear over and over and over again that the only way to solve the budget problems is through austerity. You know there is another side that can help with reducing a deficit called taxes? Specifically taxing billionaires. But it seems that only the poor must suffer when making things more efficient.

[–] Jumpingspiderman 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Taxing billionaires makes sense and would work well to solve all sorts of problems. But the billionaires own the government and the politicians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

That can change. And as an emergency measure, we should asset-strip every single one of them.

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[–] nifty 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They can do it and get sued, the fact is people who paid into it expecting to make use of the program were stolen from if they cut it. The govt. needs to stop being a bitch and tax the wealthy.

[–] AdolfSchmitler 3 points 16 hours ago

Imminent domain and civil asset forfeiture are the government stealing your shit and telling you to get fucked. You think it won't be the same for social security?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yup, it's such a lie that SS and Medicare are socialist "entitlements." We're entitled to them because we fucking paid for them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

The first government pension system was implemented by that arch-conservative Bismarck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good luck with that under the Orange Idiotn and his shit chugging sycophants. As a disabled person who needs SSDI to live, I'd join that lawsuit in a nanosecond.

[–] Sanctus 96 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Thats our money. We paid into it. They are stealing from us.

[–] Xanthobilly 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is the correct take away. They’re using it to fund further tax cuts to the wealthy.

[–] Sanctus 18 points 1 day ago

I wonder if we can sue them for taking this from us. I mean, I been paying into that for twelve fucken years. A lot of others have put a lot more in.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All rich people steal. This is nothing new.

[–] Jumpingspiderman 6 points 1 day ago

Stealing is how the very richest got rich.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Two wealthy billionaire immigrants hired to pilfer American livelihood because the Government borrowed and bet from our Social Security— and lost the money. Now they see no other way out of insolvency.

Certainly Elon and Vivek aren’t going to start paying their fair share of taxes, so it’s steal from the poor and give to the rich.

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[–] Goodmorningsunshine 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rape and pillage. This is all these human pieces of absolute garbage know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

The fact that this implies that they are comparable to the Vandals, Vikings, or Mongols is an insult said ancient raiders and pillagers.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Go ahead. Fuck with people's money, or expectations of money. See how far that gets you. Culture wars are one thing, and don't affect everyone, but cold hard cash is very real to most people. I fucking dare them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

We’re starving and CEOs are back on the menu.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Go ahead and dare and then die angrily in a gutter just like they want you to. Americans don't do shit about anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey if I'm dying in a gutter I'll have nothing left to lose. Just like Mr. Adjuster.

[–] kreskin 5 points 21 hours ago

The bro of all bros. Man I wish I could be on that jury.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To all old voters who wanted Trump: HA!! HA!! HA!!

Enjoy your sentencing from this clown.

[–] Xanthobilly 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It won’t hit the elderly, they’ll cut based on current age. It’s anyone under 40 that’ll be fucked.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh good, that's me. 9/11 in middle school, wars through high school, '08 housing crash in the middle of college which pushed me to pivot to an AA instead of bachelor's, COVID wedding at 31, insane inflation through now. We finally bought our first house a few months ago and I turned 36 a few days ago. Things were starting to seem like they might turn out okay after all. Serves me right for having a whisper of optimism in my brain for once.

Pensions in this country are nearly non-existent. Without social security either, only the wealthy can retire. Thankfully, I've had retirement accounts for years, but they'll be wiped out by the first late life medical emergency I experience. Without social security to look forward to, I think a lot of people would rather live through total societal collapse than give their everything just to prop up this system that gives nothing back. It's a bad fucking deal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

My retirement accounts just got wiped by 5 months out of work. I'm over fifty and starting that shit over. I'm very lucky in that my father in law will supposedly leave us around a million dollars when he dies, but that's a morbid and fragile situation. If, deity forbid, we got a divorce, I'm guaranteed to have to work until I keel over. Also if he experiences long term hospitalization, that'll eat that up super quick.

Even if we get full social security, that'll drop our income by something like 80% and our house isn't going to be paid off until we're close to 80.

My wife is blissfully ignorant and considers our retirement to be "taken care of." I hope, babe, because kibble is going to be hard to chew once we can't afford dental care...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Listen to some soft jazz to calm down. I suggest Mangione.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wait, is he using his kid as a human shield now? Not one time has he been holding a child now suddenly it's part of his wardrobe. Lmfao.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

You wouldn't hit a guy holding a kid, would you?

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes 8 points 1 day ago

That's a pretty Brian Thompson thing to do.

[–] blattrules 24 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Time to start stocking up on riot supplies.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can I opt out of paying SS taxes? Haha.

[–] T00l_shed 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Depends, what's your net worth?

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[–] thisphuckinguy 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh, I don’t even know how to feel now.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why not? You've presumably been paying into a system your whole working life that is going to be stolen from you. You don't know how to feel about that?

[–] thisphuckinguy 1 points 12 hours ago

We’ll wait and see if these fools actually pull it off.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Fine. But pay me back what I paid into it the past 30 years along with its gains.

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