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[–] roguetrick 132 points 6 days ago (8 children)

One thing that should scare the shit out of these fuckers is that nobody is blaming it on their political enemies. Both the left and the right secretly hope it was one of their guys that did this.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Pick any rural county, and you can find a bus load of people who’ve been screwed over or denied care by health insurance. And for those who do not have a specific, personal grudge, healthcare options in the sticks are increasingly geographic monopolies run by a single provider, with a Byzantine network of in/out network insurers.

Someone driving their mother four hours for biweekly dialysis or cancer care because the local provider is not covered is going to be pissed. A parent buying their child because the local provider ‘streamlined’ care while slashing nursing headcount is going to be a lot more than pissed.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I knew healthcare was messed up but I legit didn't know how messed up until it happened to me. My daughter got put on a specialty medicine because of a relatively rare kidney condition. It had to be compounded, because she is a small child but the medicine only came in adult doses.

Aetna denied coverage, stating I had to get the medicine from CVS (which is owned by the same parent company of Aetna). CVS does not compound medicine, so we couldn't get it from them. I spent almost a full year on the phone arguing with them and around $6000 paying out of pocket before I was able to switch insurances.

I consider myself reasonable. Even in a functioning system, mistakes can happen and need to be resolved, and I spent the first month or more assuming this was just an innocent mistake. What got to me was the total lack of recourse. Day after day on the phone with people, some of whom genuinely seemed to care but could do nothing. They intentionally separate the patients from the people making decisions so that all the decision makers get is a few fields in a form, not the whole story. The people in charge are even more separated so they never have to hear anything about the people they're screwing over. And if I couldn't afford the extra $6000 burden, I just wouldn't have gotten the medicine and in the best case she would have spent that year in and out of the hospital and in the worst she wouldn't have survived the year.

I tend to think most people are decent. But the system we've built makes sure to separate people by impenetrable layers of bureaucracy to ensure that the decent people either can't do anything or never know there's a problem, while the indecent never have to be confronted with the damage they do. It's insane.

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[–] Rakonat 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Reason #2193 we should have switched over to universal healthcare decades ago. For profit healthcare and services undermine the very thing they are supposed to provide

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, the sentiment in comments I’m seeing are taking this as the working class fighting back against the ruling class. They should be scared of the 99% waking up to the fact that the 1% are not invincible and their fortunes and bunkers won’t save them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

It was me. I shot Brian Thompson, CEO of United Healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Olhonestjim 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

We are all Spartacus on this blessed day.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

What a chad move tbh

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[–] youstolemyname 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In reality it is probably just a guy whose wife's cancer treatment was denied.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Didn't trump claim he could shoot someone in the streets of New York and get away with it? Maybe it was him.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's hard to imagine Trump riding a bike.

[–] bitjunkie 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Suspect fled the scene on a rascal scooter

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

It was an e-bike though. Automatic pedal

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[–] MapleEngineer 50 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Perhaps the 9mm pistol is the guillotine of the next American revolution.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

NGL if there were copycat crimes targetting other health insurance CEOs, most people would probably herald the vigilantes.

Yeah murder is bad and all but these guys are responsible for so much death and pain and suffering for making a profit.

Killer here is a legit antihero. Like Dexter Morgan. In the earlier seasons.

Really I'm just picturing the scene in Dogma where Matt Daemon and Ben Affleck drop in on a Mooby's board meeting and kill nearly all of them.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Makes sense. 9mm is protected under the second amendment. And our incoming VP says that shootings are a way of life.

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[–] BigBenis 57 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Watch this be the catalyst for stricter gun control

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago

Lol thoughts and prayers.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

The point of having guns is to defend yourselves, Americans.

[–] GladiusB 12 points 6 days ago

NOTHING will make them give up their guns

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[–] tomsh 35 points 6 days ago (3 children)

They gave him a reward, crimestopper!

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 24 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Jury nullification, also known in the United Kingdom as jury equity, or a perverse verdict, is when the jury in a criminal trial gives a verdict of not guilty even though they think a defendant has broken the law. The jury's reasons may include the belief that the law itself is unjust, that the prosecutor has misapplied the law in the defendant's case, that the punishment for breaking the law is too harsh, or general frustrations with the criminal justice system. Some juries have also refused to convict due to their own prejudices in favor of the defendant. Such verdicts are possible because a jury has an absolute right to return any verdict it chooses. Nullification is not an official part of criminal procedure but is the logical consequence of two rules governing the systems in which it exists:

  1. Jurors cannot be punished for passing an incorrect verdict.

  2. In many jurisdictions, a defendant who is acquitted cannot be tried a second time for the same offense.

A jury verdict that is contrary to the letter of the law pertains only to the particular case before it; however, if a pattern of acquittals develops in response to repeated attempts to prosecute a particular offence, this can have the de facto effect of invalidating the law. Such a pattern may indicate public opposition to an unwanted legislative enactment. It may also happen that a jury convicts a defendant even if no law was broken, although such a conviction may be overturned on appeal. Nullification can also occur in civil trials; unlike in criminal trials, if the jury renders a not liable verdict that is clearly at odds with the evidence, the judge can issue a judgment notwithstanding the verdict or order a new trial.

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[–] roguetrick 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't look like anything to me.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

Very weird to share a screencap of an empty store.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Hey, he looks like my friend, John Doe

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 days ago

This is HORRIBLE news! I'm talking about the News about ONE person dying not the MILLIONS he Kills each year!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Not as embarassing as being worse than even Russia. American tourists will receive more healthcare in Russia than american citizens in America. I don't know what you need to create universal healthcare system. Medics, academics, ministers of healthcare, communists, all above, books, equipment - anything can be provided, just please make universal healthcare in your country.

Hopefully at least this will cause some positive change to happen.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

Should have bought working class insurance.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Would the CEO have lived if he had had a gun?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That requires a good guy with a gun, so no.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

and in this case, the good guy did have and shot the gun

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