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[–] CharlesDarwin 1 points 3 hours ago

I wonder how many of these dummkopfs voted for donvict.

[–] not_that_guy05 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No no, you wanted a day without a Mexican, here you fuckin go.

Pieces of shit farm owners.

[–] inclementimmigrant 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To that I say, nope, FAFO with your votes for Trump and your shitty Republicans.

Go hire your white neighbors on unemployment, waiting for their settlement checks. Might want to ask Georgia, Arizona, and Florida how that worked and it's working out for them.

[–] stoly 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sadly they won't realize it for what it is. It'll still be liberals fault for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You'd think farmers of all people would understand that you reap what you sow.

[–] Blue_Morpho 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Across the road from my street is a Nursery/Lawn care place staffed completely with latin American immigrants. The owner plastered his business with Trump signs. The owner is a retired cop. One of his signs even said "Trump, I'm voting for the felon."

I know it's really wrong for the immigrants, but I want to report him the second Trump's militarized deportation starts.

[–] inclementimmigrant 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I completely understand, even as a child of immigrants.

Americans have done this shitty song and dance for four decades now where Republicans are two-faced assholes where they complain about immigrants but want cheap immigrant labor. They need to learn and learn hard that their hypocrisy has a cost.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Not just the loss in cheap labor, but also in "free" social security taxes (that such workers don't end up claiming).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I want to report him the second Trump's militarized deportation starts.

Please do. These people desperately need to directly experience the problems they voted into office.

[–] ChocoboRocket 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Generally, farmers bitch and cry about anything and everything, except for the things they actually should care about. Like sustainably, and corporate ownership of supply chains that collude on prices and distribution networks while putting all the risk on farmers.

They are one of the more entitled voter blocks who live in a zero sum, anything to 'survive' at the expense of everything else mentality.

We'd have dust bowl events every 5 years if farmers had their way. It's absolutely an industry that demands government intervention, because sustainability isn't short term profitable.

I'm not suggesting that farmers are inherently bad/greedy/destructive of the environment, as the food supply chain often forces farmers to act this way, but that doesn't change their current attitudes and approach to agriculture.

My farmchair quarterback call is that Farmers crop yields should be half of their income, and sustainable practices, limited fertilizer and pesticide use, and overall soil quality and health should act as a multiplier to crop yields. So lower yields but better farming practices pays more than high yield, environment destroying, agriculture

[–] CharlesDarwin 1 points 2 hours ago

Yep. I spent many years among these people. They'd bitch about "government" even as it propped them up and kept them whole.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 6 points 2 days ago

Congratulations you have lost the next election because food prices went up

[–] toiletobserver 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week!

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It’s never a problem until it affects them.

Just like abortion. It’s not their problem until it’s their mistress.

[–] BlackPenguins 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

#YouWantedHim

I would love for this to go trending for the next 4 years. Become the new #MeToo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Easy fix for this on Trump's end. Join the Trump Farmers Association for 5 million and your workers are exempt.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Farmers want slaves simple as. “My undocumented workers that I pay shit tier wages to can’t be deported, make them stay!”

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm so torn on this one...

On the one hand I feel like a Trump supporter here, where I want the right people to suffer for their actions (the farmers/business owners who voted for him)

But I also strongly hold the belief that we should be working to process all immigrants as quickly as possible so they can become citizens...

MAGA, and most GOP in general are always lying about their intent or their issues: "they're here illegally." Is their explanation of their stance, but if that was true they would have little issue with expanding our capabilities of accepting new immigrants and helping them gain citizenship. Of course when you bring up that then their argument changes....

[–] sensiblepuffin 3 points 1 day ago

I understand you feel like that's vindictiveness, but hear me out - given that rural, agricultural, and Rust Belt states swung wildly towards Trump, I don't think it's unfair to instead think of that as justice.

[–] SarcasticMan 7 points 2 days ago

I don't know why they are worried, they will get them back after the camps are full. It will be much easier too, they won't have to worry about payroll and ICE. They can just pay whatever private prison firm gets the contracts and they will ship them out in batches.

[–] thisphuckinguy 5 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nope, go find someone else to exploit.

[–] Death_Equity 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They will.

Farms that grow crops that need manual harvesting will switch to corn, soy, etc. that can be harvested with a combine or shut down. The manual harvest crops will be bought from another country.

[–] CharlesDarwin 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

With a huge donvict tariff on those...

[–] Death_Equity 2 points 1 hour ago

And supposedly lower taxes to help offset that somehow, but all the same the costs will be passed on to us.

[–] Sanctus 7 points 2 days ago
[–] HootinNHollerin 1 points 2 days ago