… with the Model Y in particular, not all vehicles come with manual releases for the rear doors, as Tesla warns in the car's manual. It's unclear if the Model Y involved in the crash was equipped with the emergency feature.
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not all vehicles come with manual releases for the rear doors
That sounds... Well, fucking stupid.
But it saves money - and that's certainly more important for Musk than a well-produced vehicle
Hey it's really quite profound if you think about it though
In the 80s we had this little crank. Car didn't need to be on. Crank wasn't electric. Crank was kid-powered. Your dad just yelled at you. "HEY!!!! ROLL THE WINDOW DOWN BACK THERE!!!! YA LITTLE SHIT!!!"
And you knew it was serious, because cars back then didn't have A.C unless you were rich. So it was 90 degrees and the inside of the car was 110. Because YOU said we should put the reflective cover in the winshield, so it wouldn't get so hot in the car, but nooooooooo, dad said you'd only be a minute in the store. Then you come back out 45 minutes later. Which as you know, in kid time is several weeks. So now it's hot in the car. And the seat vynal is burning your legs, because you wore shorts.
And so you ask if you can just open the car doors for a while before you get in, but noooooooo we got places to be.
And so now you're getting yelled at, to crank both windows down because SOMEONE is being an asshole.
But at least you're not burning in a vehicle with no way out!
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As a European i wonder how lack of mechanical opening could pass safety norms.
there is, it'w just not very obvious apparently. Gotta read the manual to know it.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ETBQdho90xU
https://youtube.com/shorts/XTfg7VQZ8_4
The last one is: remove the liner in the cargo compartment in the door, pop a flap on the bottom and pull the little tab on the cable that comes out. Even of your know, in a full panic it's going to be hard.
Use the metal part of the seat belt to smash the window is going to be easier in panic mode.
That last video is clearly someone at Tesla being maliciously compliant with the safety rules to check off a box and pass inspection. Whoever designed that does not actually care about safety.
The windows are laminated I believe, so they won't shatter. It's unfortunately quite common in many modern vehicles now. It used to be just the front windshield.
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in 20 years nobody will be buying a tesla because theyll have killed off their repeat buyers
When Elon’s DOGE kills the economy, I don’t know who he thinks will be able to buy his shit. Maybe he can sell in Europe.
Nope, here a lot of people are wising up too. And he is constantly fighting with unions. His company will be oblitherated by the Chinese EV companies.
And Cybertrucks won't pass certification here.
Too bad the US has actively banned Chinese EVs from being imported to focus or their own behind the times shit models.
I don't actively research EVs yet as I'm not in the market, but that's what I've read whenever I get a little interest in them. I'm not keen on investing until there are more charging places in my area before getting serious on the switch.
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That's how a "free market" is actually supposed to work.
We DO NOT have a free market, nor do we have the regulations required to keep the economy on a sustainable growth track. Which is why we reliably implode. We took the worst of both economic systems and gave a few oligarchs that control conglomerate corporations free reign to enrich themselves through crisis capitalism.
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He won’t care, it’s all a game to him. He has already moved on from Tesla. I’d be surprised if a new model came out at this point.
Perhaps people who truly believe they are in a simulation shouldn’t be allowed to play the game.
I think they will end up just running charging stations eventually and not selling cars
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Open the car doors, HAL.
I will never, ever understand how obscenely expensive, poorly made cars sold by a fascist got so damned popular.
Best EV before the fascist made it evident that's what he is. Still best supercharging network available.
They have never not been poorly made.
Somewhat tangential fact we should not forget: Musk didn't found Tesla. He bought his way in but acts like he founded it.
They were the only reasonable EV option for several years. They still have the best available charging network if any EV.
I'm not selling a car that is paid off bc the owner of the company stopped hiding that he's obvious trash.
How about because it's safety features lack basic things that can save lives?
I bet if your house slides in the water anyone inside may well die. You gonna move? If not, why? If it's because it doesn't seem probable, then revisit your comment to me. Half of one percent of probability is not "basic things that save lives", that would be seat belts, air bags, windshield wipers, a horn, etc. etc.
You forget about conformity, if something doesn't work how one would expect it to especially in an emergency then it's poorly designed.
If you pull a door handle the expected result is that it releases the door to be opened... If for every door you had to push,pull, lift, turn, check for a secret lever you would think door's are shit...
And that's exactly what's happening here...
It only follows the standard when it's not damaged...
If my house slides into water we got a lot more issues happening and my doors will still work as expected...
I mean fine, yes, we want consistent behavior for as many car systems as possible. I agree.
My perspective is if you do something different, like use electronic systems, and 5 times out of 1000 in emergency situations it doesn't work as intended, is that REALLY cause for redesign if there's a benefit to doing something different?
I am sure there are other vehicles that, after a crash or a drop in the water, have doors that won't open as expected or windows that don't roll or break, or maybe thet sink too fast or who knows what other thing. I don't think that fractional percentage points of situations warrant scrapping or redesigning basically anything that is not universally adopted.
I'm super griped that, as an early adopter of EVs, everybody wants to lay a turd on the cars I have had nothing but good experiences with because the CEO is a fuckwad and tech bros try to cheat the VERY prominent warning messages.
They are by no means the nicest made cars I have ever owned, but as far as the whole EV package goes, I don't think you can go wrong buying one even still if you can afford it. I super hope someone gets a better option on the table soon, but the meme Tesla hate is probably driving people away from a generally solid car choice.
Yes because if it can save a life then it's worth it... No one deserves to die because they got into a car. Do you know how you fix it? Make the default unlocked so if it loses power it's going to open... There are ways to fix things so they will work as intended.
And no shit if you get hit in the side I wouldn't expect anyone to think a broken bend door is going to function. But if the only thing wrong with it is that it no longer has power and therefore doesn't open?
I'm glad you have nothing but great experiences with your car and that's fine... And Tesla opened the patents so other car makers could do EVs... That's great.
But fuck them for helping making huge screens the standard. And lying constantly about self driving...only using cameras for automated driving... And the shitty quality control for luxury cars.. they have recalls after recalls...
So yeah you should be upset, because Tesla for a short while was great... I thought about it way back when but the screen always held me back.
Have you looked at other EVs? More and more are coming out from the big car brands and newer ones.
Before someone talks about the windows to justify the electronic door release, cars have had frameless doors for decades at this point, Tesla didn't invent anything, it's possible to have the window go down a bit with a mechanical handle and a switch that gets activated by it.
Or just use a gasket like subaru's did/do. I had frameless doors in ~2000 with no electronics required.
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Tesla car doors have manual releases in the front doors but not in the rear doors. Or rather, there are manual releases in the rear doors but they are hidden under a hatch under the rubber matting in the door bins so effectively nobody is going to find them in an emergency. So if your car is on fire and you're injured or panicking & you're unaware about the manual release then you're going to die. Now to be fair, the front manual release in the Tesla model 3/Y is fairly discoverable (it's a handle above the electric windows) but it's not so obvious in older models. The Cybertruck has similar manual releases as the 3/Y but with toughened glass I wonder how long before we see someone drown or burn to death and bystanders were unable to rescue them.
Aren't the emergency release in some models behind the speaker grills? And others not present unless you have a higher tier package? (Talking about rear doors)
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So can we officially put Teslas down as worse than the Pinto, cause im pretty sure theyve killed more folks than the Pinto and its magic gas tank.
Mobile dumpsters with a new trash incinerator feature!
Is this how Elon plans to start the culling. 🤔
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New fear unlocked?
I'm not afraid. In order to be locked in a burning tesla,I'd first have to be inside a tesla.
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Error: Newfear.exe unable to be unlocked
You can't unlock the new fear. You have to read the instructions for the new fear to know how to operate the new fear's manual release.
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