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Stephen Moore, a senior economic adviser to US president-elect Donald Trump, urged the UK to adopt the US “free enterprise” model over Europe’s “more socialist” system, suggesting it would enhance the Trump administration’s “willingness” to pursue a UK-US trade deal.

Moore also defended US agricultural practices and Trump’s proposed 10% blanket import tariff, noting possible exemptions for allies like the UK.

UK leaders, including Keir Starmer, face pressure to balance trade ties with both the EU and US, with figures like Peter Mandelson advocating dual trade agreements amid Brexit challenges.

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[–] Sanctus 116 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pick socialism, dont fall for it. Dont become corporate property. Dont let them own the world.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago

Socialism isn't even on offer these days. What Republicans consider socialist stretches all the way from communism to conservatism.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 month ago (5 children)

TIL I live in socialist EU.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Article 3 (3) TEU:

The Union shall establish an internal market. It shall work for the sustainable development of Europe based on balanced economic growth and price stability, a highly competitive social market economy, aiming at full employment and social progress, and a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the environment. It shall promote scientific and technological advance.

Emphasis mine. In a nutshell a social market economy is a Realpolitik compromise between capitalism and market socialism, where private ownership of the means of production is tolerated but said ownership doesn't entail complete power over it, through e.g. co-determination laws.

To make this more concrete, and maybe blow some Yank's mind: Volkswagen's employees elect 50% - 1 seats on the board. Together with shares held by Lower Saxony (usually run by a socdem government) they run the place, no matter how many shares the Porsche/Piëch clan and the Saudis have. It's why VW itself worked towards unionising its own plant in Chattanooga, to the bewilderment of many. Sadly can't unionise the plants in China the CCP hates it when workers have a say.

[–] wabafee 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ironic for China to not like unions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Tankies gonna tank.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

OMG they cat even communist properly.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago
[–] Jumi 9 points 1 month ago

Must be a different EU

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TIL I'm emigrating to socialist EU.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, the UK isn't in the EU. Unless I'm misremembering your posts

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[–] brucethemoose 59 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Remember how great Brexit was, they say.

[–] fluxion 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes UK is an economic powerhouse now thanks Brexit

[–] lemmus 11 points 1 month ago

Britannia rules the waves.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I strongly recommend the UK focus on the US as a trading partner. It is obviously more sensible to ship your imports and exports to and from a market some 5000 km away, than to the market just 50 km away. Clearly your population will love fruits being either 2 weeks old at least or flown in. That fits the english taste best anyways.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Not to forget going with an ally as stable and consistent as Trump and his pack. I hope Britains like extortion.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Slightly drunk, but I appreciate it 💖

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[–] 9point6 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Americans talking about socialism is like teenagers talking about sex

Zero clue

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s time for another episode of “Everything I Don’t Like Is Socialism” with Donnie Temper Tantrum!

[–] random_character_a 3 points 1 month ago

Poor can work at the Mar-a-Lago for food or die in a gutter. That's the American way.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

Oh boy, he's going after the NHS like he tried a couple of years ago. Brits need to fight this and don't fall for our predatory private healthcare system that prioritizes money over human lives.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US seems perfectly happy with socialism … for its corporate sector

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Privatised profits, socialised losses.

[–] Rice_Daddy 27 points 1 month ago

I don't mind working with the US even with Trump leading, but the EU is clearly a natural partner. They're right at our doorstep.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Uh, Socialism please.

"Well we're all out of Socialism. We only had three bits and we didn't expect such a rush. So whaddaya want?"

What, so my choice is "or US free enterprise"?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh ..well.. then I'll have the chicken.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

"Tastes of human sir. Would you like a white wine?"

[–] filister 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What is more worrying is what Trump thinks of the EU. This guy is a threat to democracy and international law.

And the worst is that much of the democratic party is shifting more to the right in their pursuit of voters.

This world is completely screwed with politicians like Trump in power.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Yeah, of the world's leaders vast majority of them are dictators or wannabe dictators. Trump, Putin, Xi Jinping, Modi, Netanyahu, Erdoğan, Orban and the list goes on.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA 4 points 1 month ago

And the worst is that much of the democratic party is shifting more to the right in their pursuit of voters.

In there pursuit of being a more effective controlled opposition. Voters didn’t ask for this. Harris ran a conservative campaign and loss on that. Don’t let the democrats blame the left for their loss.

[–] fox2263 23 points 1 month ago

Trumps knowledge of the EU is solely what Farage tells him. Or should I say, whispers to him after rubbing his belly.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

"US economic model."

It's capitalism. Unfettered capitalism.

[–] samus12345 22 points 1 month ago

"C'mon, guys, be fascist like us!"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So either embrace corporatism or be branded a commie he means?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I'll take the branding.

[–] cosmicrookie 12 points 1 month ago

Ohh... the US economy where people need 3 jobs to afford groceries and where health insurance only covers expenses if you aren't too sick?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Oh no... he's off to try and sell bleach washed chicken again to the brits.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Cancers metastasize.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As an EU-citizen, I feel like this is a UK decision and not a US decision.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You remember what the brits chose the last time they had the opportunity to do so?

[–] dlatch 12 points 1 month ago

I was going to say: "no way they'd be that stupid again", but then again the US just elected Trump for a second time so who knows

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They’ll choose Trumpism. Starmer inherited the legacy of the Brexit referendum, and if he’s seen as veering towards the European approach, the oligarch-owned press will have his guts for garters and Nigel Farage in No. 10. As such, he’ll have no choice but to make a speech acknowledging this and rejecting the European approach in principle.

[–] Rice_Daddy 3 points 1 month ago

I really really hope you're wrong.

[–] Bonesince1997 6 points 1 month ago

Mob of bullies. These guys came into power last time telling people, "we won't tell you how to live, and you won't tell us how to live." Look at em now. LOL

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