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A new report from the Institute for Strategic Dialogue (ISD) has found that digital hate and harassment against women rose rapidly after the U.S. presidential election. Sexist phrases like “repeal the 19th [Amendment]” and “get back to the kitchen” surged on platforms like X, TikTok, Facebook, and Reddit following President Donald Trump’s victory over Vice President Kamala Harris. Many of the most frequent comments involve calls for a decrease in women’s rights, while others have explicitly threatened women with sexual assault and harassment. Mentions of the statement “Your body, my choice”—a direct response to the reproductive justice movement’s slogan, “my body, my choice”—grew by over 4600 percent on X. The phrase also appears to have grown in popularity offline, with parents and students reporting groups of boys chanting it to girls in schools. One parent commented online, “Today my daughter was told three separate times on campus ‘your body, MY choice.’ The third group of boys told her to ‘sleep with one eye open tonight.’”

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[–] Doomsider 32 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

My daughters have to live in this shit hole now. I am both angry and sad that it appears we are moving backwards.

I will fucking end someone if I hear them say this or anything like it to my daughter.

[–] Apollonius_Cone 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I never understood since women could vote that there isn't a woman's political party or movement.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There isn't a workers' party, either. The US is one of the few industrialized nations that doesn't have one.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Because our democracy is stale

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

It's as stale as our collective taste for it apparently. We'd have had pro reform politicians elected to power otherwise.

[–] masquenox 27 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Th 4B movement isn't a political statement. At this point, it's simply self-defense.

[–] Doomsider 19 points 18 hours ago

We have reached a great filter for society. If you are a woman and care about your rights you just need to know how a man voted to determine their value. You gotta dump if they voted for Trump.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really, REALLY hope i hear someone say this around me. I'm still trying to decide what choices i will unleash on their body....

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My brain is always struggling with upping a post,when the context is so vile. I just don't understand how could this kind of angry POS people exist and the education their parents are giving them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

They don't give any education. That's it. That's the problem. Parents don't talk with kids and/or assume that kid will raise itself if it gets enough freedom, exact opposite happens in 90% of cases. You will understand the problem even more when you remember how many kids are bullied in school and growing frustration is a consequence.

[–] Letsdothis 3 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

This is a continuation of hype trying to stir up more anger. Please don't buy into this BS. Practically/virtually no one believes the phrase "your body, my choice." I'd say probably 0.0001 of the population actually believe that that crap.

Although, there are plenty of assholes who will parrot that phrase as satire just to get a rise out of people. Probably 0.01.

You probably won't ever get a chance to react to someone in person saying, "Your body, my choice."

Let's not give this group of haters a louder voice than they deserve, and let's focus on important things like love and tolerance.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 18 hours ago

There are actual statistics in this article, unlike these which I think you made up.

You sound like those people saying that COVID was no big deal because "more people die in auto accidents". How many people have to be affected before you deem it newsworthy?

[–] stephan262 13 points 18 hours ago

How prevalent the use of the exact phrase 'Your body, my choice' is irrelevant when the intent behind it is so common in other espoused rhetoric. The fact is that too fucking many people are happy to tear up a woman's right to self determination and force women into situations that put their lives at risk. I don't think we can ignore any rhetoric that supports or gives cover to such attacks on a woman's autonomy.

At this point I would not be surprised if we started seeing feminist groups becoming armed and violent. And as much as I have a disdain for political violence, I don't think I could condemn them for doing so.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Did you read the article?

I am asking genuinely.

[–] GreenKnight23 2 points 12 hours ago

a lack of an answer tells me one of two things.

  • they have not read it
  • they cannot read

judging on their response (or lack therof), I'm going to guess they can't read.

[–] masquenox 9 points 19 hours ago

Practically/virtually no one believes the phrase “your body, my choice.”

It is "practically/virtually" the ideology of pro-rape right-wingers everywhere. Why the fuck do you think they spent so much effort to crush abortion rights?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

I really hope to see more women buying weapons to defend themselves. Don't be defenseless ladies.

[–] aceshigh 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve started getting cat called at night while walking my dog. I live in a red area and I dress crappy and I’m middle aged. Today I decided to change my walking schedule and location.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

This is sad to read. I'm sorry 😔.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

2024

The last year voicechat was enabled on my copy of Team Fortress 2.

you don't wanna know

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, due to the nonexistant moderation TF2 voice chat tends to be the most intolerant thing I've ever heard in my life.

[–] aesthelete 75 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 14 points 1 day ago

Your rectum, my steel toe. Your eye socket, my bat... My choices for their bodies are endless!

[–] nomous 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That already happened to like 90% of us thanks to the same cultists.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I'd love to see a real effort to stop genital mutilation of all babies. When the most visible time men speak up about it though is when they insert themselves into a conversation about women, it does not build sympathy for the issue.

I mean this sincerely. If you are at all serious about stopping the genital mutilation of babies, I suggest you rethink your strategy.

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[–] captainlezbian 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh, then these misogynists need to watch their words and actions lest they lose even more. Eunuchs can’t forcibly impregnate anyone.

(For clarification I am very anti infant circumcision, everyone’s body their own choices)

[–] Ensign_Crab 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dude. I think circumcision is barbaric too, but there's a fucking time.

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[–] VerbFlow 29 points 1 day ago

They include the phrase being directed at them within schools or chanted by young boys in classes.

Young boys are following the misogynist Pied Piper and all the parents are just letting it happen. FFS

[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This started on Wednesday, almost immediately after Trump's victory was announced. By Friday it was already being reported in grade schools because asshole parents enjoy raising asshole sons, and Trump tells people that it's ok to be the absolute worst human being they can be.

I have a friend who is a hard Republican. We generally don't talk politics, but after this started last week he was posting things online being offensive towards women and POC (and the whole "illegals took my job and healthcare") so I finally had to call him out. His response was basically that he wasn't aware of any increased discrimination happening against women, therefore he didn't believe it was happening. I've known the guy for 40 years but this may be the thing that breaks our friendship. He claims to be an advocate for people's rights yet he is painfully unaware of the world around him.

[–] JackFrostNCola 2 points 2 hours ago

last week he was posting things online being offensive towards women

he wasn't aware of any increased discrimination happening against women

Umm...

Perhaps he has always posted that much misogynistic stuff so technically it isn't an increase?

[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Republican

advocate for people's rights

You really can't be both at the same time.

After this election I've had to cut a bunch of people out of my life, even relatives. A lot of them saying such wonderful things as "trump's just saying things, he doesn't actually mean anything he's saying." And then they'd get defensive when I'd ask them why they votes for him then if he doesn't mean anything he says.

It's really hard to cut people out of your life but afterwards it's amazing realizing that you don't need to tip toe around things that may be vaguely political (or explicitly) anymore to not start an argument.

[–] TheGrandNagus 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Republican

advocate for people's rights

You really can't be both at the same time.

Of course you can, you're just missing the subtext:

Advocate for people like me's rights

Right wing beliefs have always been about empowering the "I'm alright, Jack" types (I don't know if that phrase is known in the US, but here is an explanation if not). Purely for helping the powerful stay powerful, at the expense of everyone else.

[–] Letsdothis 1 points 19 hours ago

Republican

advocate for people's rights

You really can't be both at the same time.

Of course you can, you're just missing the subtext:

Advocate for people like me's rights

American?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People that vote for the violence against the people I love have no place in my life no matter who that person is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

That's the spirit

Family is the relationship, relatives are who you're related to.

Found family is better anyways.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I remember reading some headline that reads:

"alt-right women frustrated at alt-right men about their misogyny. seeks change within the movement"

or something like that.

Leopard. Face. Etc...

[–] TheGrandNagus 13 points 1 day ago

I remember that too. I also remember reading a headline about a Brazilian far-right group travelling to the US to join a KKK meeting, then being upset that the KKK weren't particularly welcoming towards them.

The stupidity is absolutely incredible.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago (5 children)

woah, what the fuck americans?

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The really gross part is this is firmly not just Americans being stupid this time, and has somehow become The Thing To Say Online for the whole damn planet full of incel types.

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[–] yggstyle 30 points 1 day ago

The lizard brains always existed. Inbred, maladjusted, loud angry hateful fucks. We used to be able to suppress them. We ceded the helm of this nation to a bunch of corporations and their puppets in congress. We've been trying like hell to fight this multi front battle and are just taking Ls across the board.

We are burning books. Banning knowledge.

We are entering an environment where many do not have the luxury of having an opinion.

Speaking for all of those who were still trying: We're sorry. We're still here. We still care. But we're fighting a losing battle.

Speaking for myself... I'm fucking tired man. I'm not the only one. People I've spoken to all are effectively the same: resigned to what comes next. There isn't enough unity in this mess to right the ship. That unity will come with desperation... and we're not there yet. 4-6 years. Maybe then. It's got to get a lot worse before we unify over the collective mess we're all stuck in.

[–] Eldritch 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Who did you think we were? This is who we've always been. They're just getting comfortable taking the mask off again. Trust me, my grandmother and other family were put through the racist indian boarding schools. Common throughout the US and Canada. You know, the ones they keep finding mass graves on. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Just more subtle, less in your face.

Most people thought are too distracted with bread and circuses to care however.

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[–] Xanthobilly 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think some of this is being amplified by America’s enemies to drive division.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

.... platforms like X, TikTok, Facebook, and Reddit.

What are four platforms I will never use again Alex?

[–] yggstyle 16 points 1 day ago

And while you'd be right to do so- make no mistake that there are posts on every social media platform with the same exact goal in mind. This one is no different.

We are entering into an era informational noise. The signal is still there but it is fucking faint in the storm of misinformation and ai/seo bullshit it is being transmitted into.

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