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[–] ChonkyOwlbear 213 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Enjoy the self-satisfaction of having taken the high road while the concentration camps get built.

[–] inclementimmigrant 106 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

And what did you want her to tell people to march to the capitol and hang the vice president being willing to certify the election?

Nah, Americans voted for Trump and his fascism, his racism so let them have it.

[–] CompostMaterial 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly, 70 million American Nazis are to thank for this.

[–] Potatisen 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Only 70 million voted for him?

[–] Bustedknuckles 29 points 2 weeks ago

72 so far, Harris with 67. Pretty low turnout given the stakes

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 8 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty low compared to last election..

340ish million Americans, ~74 million of them changed the world forever.

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[–] drunkpostdisaster 24 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

He'll of a way to blow off all the deaths that are coming. I don't cate what happens to his voters. But the rest of us are going to suffer too.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, we don't need the president's permission to revolt.

[–] atheridis 8 points 2 weeks ago

Only follow the rules with those who follow them too.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Excuse me?! They're called "internment camps"!

[–] pennomi 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

We can still try to obstruct via filibuster and other mechanisms. (Republicans have already shown us how to do it effectively.) But certainly no progress can be made for the next four years.

[–] chiliedogg 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

2 years. In 2026, 20 Republican Senators will be up for re-election.

[–] pivot_root 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're putting far too much faith in the voters at this point.

Depending on how the cost of living situation goes, Trump is either going to take credit for improvements set in motion before his 2024 term, or he's going to astronomically tank it and blame it on the previous administration. No matter which happens, he will frame it to make himself look better than the Democrats while the MAGA crowd eats it up.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

As if Republicans won't eliminate the filibuster. They have no use for it because they don't plan on being in the minority ever again.

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[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Had Trump won in 2020, he'd have taken the fall for the Recession and Hyperinflation and it would have caused a 2008 effect. Populist Wave haulted, strangled in it's crib by Coronachan.

Had Trump won in 2020, he'd be done now and his VP would still be the democracy respecting Pence.

Trump when elected in 2016 had no major plan and mostly left the employees of the state intact, and in 2020 the change was minimal. Now there's a full blown scheme to control the government

In 2020 they didn't know how much they could get away with. They've seen the limits now.

Winning in 2020 means no January 6th shattering the overton window and leading SCOTUS to some interesting choices about power.

2020-2024 had one Supreme Court Justice to appoint. Now there's another 2 if not 3

In 2020 it would have been close. Now Democrats will have to regain ground, New Jersey New Hampshire and Minnesota are now Swing States.

2016 Trump had his populist wave weakened by Gary Johnson and Evan McMulin who blocked the popular vote and kept states like Colorado and New Mexico out of his hands. 2016 Trump sucked with Hispanics. That initial wave would have burnt out with the COVID fuckery. Instead Democrats slotted in, took the 4 worst possible years, and are handing it back having effectively both given them another shot in the arm and crippled themselves. There goes the court. This isn't John Kerry, it's Carter.

I've heard of 2020 hindsight, but this is ridiculous

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

2020-2024 had no Supreme Court Justices to appoint.

Biden got one, Ketanji Brown Jackson, in 2022. And had Trump been president during this time, Thomas and Alito would have probably retired after Dobbs.

[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Alright fair point then my bad. I think the rest of it stands well enough though

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Yeah, out of everything, his Supreme Court nominations are the longest lasting. They will outlive him and be a lasting influence for most of our lives. Every unconstitutional thing Republicans want to do will be handed to them by the SC. So long for checks and balances.

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[–] Chainweasel 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree, hindsight is 20/20 and if he would have just won then, this would have all been over yesterday.

But now, we're 75 days from being an actual dictatorship, and when we help Russia flatten Europe we'll also be an axis power.
Every time I think we're in the worst possible timeline the universe says "bet" and throws us another curveball.
I'm getting really fucking tired of living in an era that will be fascinating to read about in future history books.

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[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Also 2020 Trump was still struggling with Hispanics. The 2015 rhetoric really hurt him there. Too fucking late to put that genie back in the bottle. It's gone man, solid gone

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't understand how the rhetoric this time didn't hurt him there tbh, he didn't change it really

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago

The moral high road is littered with corpses, and it looks like we're bound and determined to add more to the pile.

[–] 2ugly2live 55 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

WHY

Why do we have to be the bigger people and accept this bullshit? THIS ISN'T WORKING.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

We don't. But maybe not here.

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[–] Myxomatosis 41 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Expecting Americans to do even the bare minimum, such as playing by the rules, is expecting way too much.

[–] FenrirIII 8 points 2 weeks ago

This is the truth. Americans have forgotten the common good and looking out for each other. The boomers began the culture shift towards selfish assholism and the subsequent generations have accelerated it.

[–] vanontom 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Happily voted Harris, to defeat the christian fascists. But I think her concession confirms that she was never going to be the fighter we needed.

First, Democrat's gamble on pushing aside the progressive core (thanks to incorrect reading of Biden popularity and protests over Israel's genocide) in favor of a coalition of former Republicans and mythical "decent conservatives" was a huge red flag. It has now proved absolutely catastrophic.

Second, "the high road" has rarely extracted more than the absolute minimum at the slowest possible pace. This election proved it has failed us. Peace is not an option anymore. Unfortunately, we're going to need to fight ruthlessly for every inch. Entrenched billionaire oligarchs, funding literally insane religious extremists and domestic terrorists. They will gleefully turn up the heat on our formerly cold civil war with their brutality over the next few years.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

The worst thing about Trump by far is his refusal to accept a peaceful transition of power. It's a national tragedy that he will never be held accountable for that, and that his behavior has been validated by winning another election.

I'm glad she is setting an example of what a peaceful transition of power looks like, for those who apparently aren't familiar with the concept.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What else is she supposed to say? Unfortunately, the people have spoken. They’re going to get what they have chosen and deserve at this point, and it’s a crying shame.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

Flowery words about democracy for somebody living in an oligarchy/monarchy.

[–] RubicTopaz 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Liberals once again just giving over power to fascists. Tale as old as time.

Not even gonna resist? Really?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

A bit different this time, since the people overwhelmingly voted for the fascist. The Nazi party in the late 30s only had a plurality in their parliament.

But yeah it definitely rhymes... Though I'm honestly not sure what else they should do that wouldn't result in all out civil war

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

So, I might get put on a list for this, but so be it.

Does no one else here feel like a little bit of fuckery has happened in the election process?

It's like overnight everyone has forgotten about all those ballot boxes that were burned, multiple cases of ballot box interference (1,2), and the fact that Trump and his ilk are always projecting, which means that when he says a state or someone is cheating, it very well could mean that he and his cronies are up to no good. What about those bomb threats?

Now, with all of that being said, I do NOT want to come off as the same of the likes of a Trump supporter. I do not want you all to look at me like I am trying to cause distrust in the system. I do trust the system (as much as I can of course), so let it be said here and now, I am not saying this as a matter of fact.

These points, and the very quick and almost instant next day results, have made me very much question the LANDSLIDE that Trump had this year. Voter turn out was at an all time high, and I know that doesn't mean a lot, but everything combined makes me a little inquisitive to the nature of the results. We know that Russian interference happened in 2016. We know about Russian interference in the 2020 election. We also expected, and are sure of, interference in this election of 2024. That's not even counting all the billionaires and millionaires having private little meetings about how they can push the scales to their favor, Trump and Musk talking to Putin in private, and I'm sure there are plenty more that we can all find easily verifiable facts on.

I guess what I'm trying to say, is that something felt more off about this election, than the past three, to me at least.

Am I just being silly? Can someone help me here?

[–] Mcdolan 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly this has been knocking around in my head. Did truly less people vote this go around?

We have more days of counting to go through but I'm honesty surprised at the numbers so far.

If less people voted then fair, but something feels off. Kinda left with some uncomfortable possibilities if there's a way to know the true number of people that voted.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I agree. If there really are that much less votes this year, and everything is clear as can be, then I concede my theory. It just seems so.. strange? Like, he was literally sitting there claiming fraud, and then...? Nothing..? Just stopped peddling it, and won? Like, he got real confident, real quick..

[–] LustyArgonianMana 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I said the same thing but as a woman so people called me crazy

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[–] WoahWoah 17 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, so noble.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Why didn't the Dems cheat like they did in 2020? Strange. /S

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not accepting the results. Trump is not my President.

I voted Harris and that was my pick.

This is just absolute bullshit that she now turns and expects people who were voting not just for her, but voting for a continual track of progress for this country. She expects us to 'accept it'. What about the people in LGBTQ who're now fearing for their lives? Tell them to "Accept it" for what's to come for them when the AmeriNazi Regime comes banging on their doors? What about the minorities who're now fearing for their lives about getting deported? Going to tell them to "Accept it" as the AmeriNazi Regime scream and demand that they go back?

What about the working class who're now fretting over their resources and now looking down the barrel of having to take in more work and have little time to relax in life? Going to tell them to "Accept it" as the AmeriNazi Regime overworks and burns them out to death to support the upper class and corporate interests?

Harris, I liked you and voted for you. But this is a 'Fuck you' to accepting the AmeriNazi Regime.

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