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[–] CoCo_Goldstein 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I myself asked "What time of year was the lower photograph taken?" Then I realized I was being dumb, because if either photo was taken in winter time, we would see at least some ice in the water, if not a very large ice sheet.

[–] dual_sport_dork 8 points 2 days ago

That, and it'd be dark. You'd need to pack one hell of a flash.

[–] affiliate 86 points 2 days ago (1 children)

crazy to think that guy has been on that boat for over 100 years

[–] someguy3 38 points 2 days ago (3 children)

He clearly switched boats.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2 12 points 2 days ago

Boat of Theseus

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Nah, he just slowly upgraded and remodel on the spot. The guy never moved from that spot. 🤥

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[–] CeeBee_Eh 69 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank goodness they cleared out all that snow and ice so that we can finally see the pretty mountains.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We should put some factories there!

[–] PixeIOrange 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This might be silly but we could replace the ice with trash?

[–] Anticorp 5 points 2 days ago

Already working on it, my dudes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

We might have to workshop this, but I feel like there's a good idea in there somewhere

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[–] pyre 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

yeah but it's much more colorful now. that's good, isn't it?

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Facebook comments: Well obviously it was taken in the SUMMER 😂🤣😆 Morons global warming is all fear mongering!

Yes Jim. It's very normal that entire glaciers disappear, regularly in fact, every year. You are so smart, much smarter than all of the scientists who are panicking.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ummm…. There’s people right here on lemmy saying the same dumb shit about summer. Don’t think for a second that lemmy doesn’t host some of the exact same idiots Facebook does.

[–] Draconic_NEO 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Good news is that many instances on Lemmy are less tolerant to alt-right trolls and climate deniers. Best to use that report function so your admins, or even better, their admins, can snipe them.

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[–] Sam_Bass 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

air is probably cleaner now than it was then

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 80 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wow, it looks so much prettier today. All thanks to climate improvement.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

Thanks, emissionschads!

[–] Donkter 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Notice the first guy is in a wooden boat and the second guy is in a boat most likely made out of some plastic-based fibers. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (6 children)

The plastic isn't really a huge driver of climate change, the problems it causes are different.

For the climate change comparison, notice that the old boat has oars, but the new boat has a gas engine

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

The boat in the old photo (from 1928, apparently) is casting a pretty good wake, and the man aboard is holding a tiller attached to a rudder. It's impossible to tell for certain with the low-res image, but entirely likely that one of those shapes in the boat ahead of him is an inboard engine.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

New real estate!

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At least we got some space to build car centric suburbia, eh? /s

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (8 children)

More room to pollute! 🥳🥳🥳

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

A reverse image search revealed to me that there are a hell of a lot of copies of this image around the internet, but I can't seem to find any papers that provide background. I'm going to have to look again later, but if there's any other internet sleuths out there interested in figuring out the origins of these photos with reputable explainers, I would love to know more about this.

I'm always afraid of things like this that seem to confirm my biases without associated information to back it...

[–] philz 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I just did reverse image search and found this article from 2002

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago

The Guardian article nailed it, thanks!

It doesn't cite exactly where they got the Greenpeace photo from, but I found it here: https://media.greenpeace.org/archive/Climate-Impact-Documentation-in-Norway--Svalbard-27MZIF4WNED.html

Climate Impact Documentation in Norway, Svalbard Greenpeace documentation showing that glacier "Blomstrandbreen" has retreated nearly 2 km since 1928, with an accelerated rate of 35 metres lost per year since 1960 and even higher in the past decade. In the image, view of climate campaigner Truls Gulowsen on a speed boat going to a mine in Longyearbyen. 

Unique identifier: GP0STSCL6  Shoot date: 03/08/2002  Locations: Norway, Scandinavia, Svalbard Credit line: © Greenpeace / Christian Åslund 

A bit more from the Guardian article:

Greenpeace activists visited the glacier last weekend on the Rainbow Warrior taking pictures from the same locations to highlight the effects of global warming, which the group says is a threat to the future of the planet.

The Blomstrandbreen glacier has retreated by one and a quarter miles since 1928, according to Greenpeace. It was shrinking by 115ft a year in the 1960s, a rate which has risen.

Recent studies carried out by US researchers and reported in Science last month said that 85% of the glaciers they examined had lost vast portions of their mass in the last 40 years.

Keith Echelmayer of the University of Alaska at Fairbanks, who has carried out research into Alaska's ice streams and checked glacier thickness, said: "Most glaciers have thinned several hundred feet at low elevation in the last 40 years and about 60 feet at higher elevations."

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That…. Is fucking tragic. There’s no going back to that. Ever.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Don't worry, the ice will come back, we just won't be around to see it.

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[–] GladiusB 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh it will be back. We won't be. But the planet always bounces back.

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[–] TSG_Asmodeus 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Good luck, everyone. I genuinely hope you make it through as okay as you can.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure it was at the same time? Did the account for leap seconds?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

people 107 years ago loved sepia filters.

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