this post was submitted on 24 Sep 2024
232 points (99.6% liked)

News

23665 readers
5029 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Caroline Ellison has been sentenced to two years in jail for her role in the collapse of the cryptocurrency exchange FTX, which has been described as one of biggest financial frauds in US history.

Ellison was a top executive at the firm and is also the ex-girlfriend of its founder, Sam Bankman-Fried, who was sentenced to 25 years in prison for stealing $8bn (£6.3bn) from customers.

As part of a plea deal, Ellison admitted charges including wire fraud and money laundering, and testified against Bankman-Fried.

top 47 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Jaderick 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Coincidentally I just finished the Behind the Bastards update episode on the Bankman-Fried case from back in 2023. Apparently her diary was leaked by Sam to the press in an attempt to discredit her testimony which backfired on him lmao.

Good to see her also receive consequences.

[–] TriflingToad 3 points 3 months ago

if you haven't seen it yet Coffeezilla on yt has made good videos on it and even went to the courtroom to watch it in person

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

She commited the ultimate crime: stealing from rich people

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

she was stealing from cryptobros which is pretty funny and morally neutral, because cryptobros don't deserve having money

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't this lady also playing the role of fucktoy for him? Those two going at it doesn't conjure a positive mental image.

[–] Thrashy 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Worse, on her blog she conceived of herself as the chief consort in his harem in between sharing her thoughts on race science and Harry Potter house sorting quizzes.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can forgive stealing billions, but I draw the line at being a Harry Potter adult.

[–] Thrashy 4 points 3 months ago

What's the harm in a little bit of Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If I say that's weird will someone from hexbear appear to tell me I'm kink shaming?

[–] captainlezbian 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah it’s weird. Like it’s fine if the first part is your kink. It’s not even super rare, but firstly him? Secondly the race science. Thirdly, fuck y’all are bad at poly, like worse at poly than the people constantly talking about poly.

[–] dejected_warp_core 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thirdly, fuck y’all are bad at poly, like worse at poly than the people constantly talking about poly.

You are not kidding. I nearly forgot about this story and the absolutely gross and unethical sexual practice at work here. From the article linked earlier:

“None of this non-hierarchical bullshit,” the account elaborated. “Everyone should have a ranking of their partners, people should know where they fall on the ranking, and there should be vicious power struggles for the ranks.”

For those following along: if you browse the existing literature on poly practice, this uncompassionate practice doesn't show up anywhere. These animals were using the "poly" term as a fig-leaf for their Lord of the Flies inspired, libertine, thunderdome-style non-monogamy. I'd even hesitate to call it a cult, only because it just seems so incredibly unstable as a concept. These are the people your polycule will warn you about.

No wonder these people fleeced others for billions. There's having a skewed moral compass, and then there's having a huge vacuum where a conscience and empathy should be.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 5 points 3 months ago

“None of this non-hierarchical bullshit,” the account elaborated. “Everyone should have a ranking of their partners, people should know where they fall on the ranking, and there should be vicious power struggles for the ranks.”

So polyamory, but fascist

[–] captainlezbian 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah I’ve been practicing hierarchical poly for years, all of my current relationships began polyamorous. Hierarchical relationships are fine, it’s far more of a “her and I are on the ‘move in and marry’ path, and you have a husband and kids, our relationship is obviously the less important for both of us” type deal. Ranked competitive nonmonogamy is fucking insane. Like, it seems like an amazing way to make yourself absolutely fucking miserable and to deny yourself the comforts of love while pretending to be pursuing more of it.

I really can’t grasp how someone decides to do this

[–] Thrashy 3 points 3 months ago

Nah, as near as I can tell that group is vigorously in favor of suspending all human rights for capitalists, so regardless of their views on kink I think they'd be inclined to let the comment slide.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The picture of her, wow. She's only 30 and the pictures of her before the trial are much more inline with a 20 something. She's going to look like a 60 year old when she's done doing her time.

[–] Nuke_the_whales 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How does she look both 12 and 50?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Did I read it right that he got 25 years, and she got 110? And the 110 was a reduction after testifying against him?

[–] RestrictedAccount 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

She got 2 according to the headline

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Lol, thanks. I read the article, but not the headline, apparently.

[–] mos 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“She had faced a maximum sentence… of 110 years in prison.” She got 2, but the max would have been 110.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Thanks, that's much clearer.

[–] partial_accumen 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Headline rewrite because I had to read it 5 times to understand it:

Caroline Ellison, who then helped now ~~convited~~ convicted Sam Bankman-Fried in his FTX crypto fraud, is herself convicted and sentenced to two years for fraud

edit: fixed spelling thanks @[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

but she also spilled beans on SBF, that's why she's got only 2 years and not 25 like SBF despite being equally deep in the fraud

[–] Neon 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not equally deep:

Her sentence was lower because she 1. regretted it and 2. didn't profit from the fraud according to the judge

[–] ansiz 7 points 3 months ago

"She was also ordered to forfeit more than $11bn (£8.2bn) to the court."

That sounds like profit to me. It was the cooperation with the court that really did it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

on top of these 11 billion dollars recovered, meaning that these were stolen, she also lived rent free in whatever bahamas mansion was bought with sbf's money, with all their ranked competitive polycule roommates

it's 100% cooperation with the court that cut down sentence that hard

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Reread your attempt again.

[–] partial_accumen 5 points 3 months ago

Saw the spelling mistake, thanks! It is now even more clear that she wasn't sentenced to fraud because she helped convict Sam Bankman-Fried, but because of her own actions in committing fraud at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I think you may have misunderstood the headline.

It's not supposed to be "now convicted". She helped the lawyers make a case against SBF. She helped in the process of convicting him. She helped convict him. It's true that she did also help him do the naughty things but that's not what this headline is saying.

Your version of the headline does not convey this aspect.

[–] captainlezbian 13 points 3 months ago

Well I know what prison gang her eugenicist ass is pledging

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

She reminds me of Janet Fist, vigilante receptionist