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Ok, the title was an overuse of emojis as a joke. But seriously, I like some limited use of emojis because it helps me convey intention/emotion so that I'm less misunderstood and also adds some more feeling/fun to text content 😄

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[–] kerthale 83 points 4 months ago (10 children)

My dyslexic brain gets upset with this mid-sentence emoji usage. Takes much more time and effort to read and interpret.

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[–] Hobbes_Dent 65 points 4 months ago

I think of them like swear words. Not on-the-internet swearing, but public swearing. To use their full power, words like "fuck" need context and - more importantly - discretion and frugal usage.

Overuse of emojis is even easier and harder to look at. But when used right, they serve a purpose. Otherwise it's "Why the fuck do users fucking dislike the fucking use of emojis on fucking Lemmy?"

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because, emojis, breakup, the, flow, of, a, sentence, like, a, comma. Using too, many, makes, it, sound, like, you, are, straining, to 💩.

[–] beejboytyson 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Huh, never understood it till now. 100% how my inner monolog read the title.

Do add to your point making all those movements while talking make you seem crazy.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago

it can quickly get unreadable. I mean, I'm fine having a smiley to mark-down the humour/sarcasm, or the bad news but on some social media it's like

*During 🍑 🍆 the 🐱 👁️‍🗨️ at 💑 *

Even more straightforward stuff can still be messy, I am not saving much by writing 🇧🇪 still has no government (Is that Romania ? Germany ? Belgium ? ) over Belgium still has no government

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (9 children)

I grew up with emoticons and find the colorful nature of them quite disruptive... but that might just be me *shrug*

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I’m sooooo with you. Emoticons 4eva! And ASCII art.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My keyboard doesn't have enough Cs on it to properly express how thicc that is.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Hahaha it’s from a VERY NSFW animation, “Axel in Harlem.” It was a big meme on a subreddit I used to go to, that I can no longer remember the name off it was all sped up and had “Ballin’” by Roddy Rich pitched up as the background music. It’s a hoot. I can pull that ASCII art by typing “forgies”. I also have

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (4 children)

It feels immature and cringe but that's probably only 'cause I'm “old”.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Same. Plus, emojis don't really add a whole lot that words cannot, and interpreting them takes away valuable time from my schedule when I'm practicing yelling at kids to get off my excuse for a lawn.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (3 children)

A single emoji at the end of a post never hurt anybody 🤫

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

For real 😏

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[–] HootinNHollerin 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I interpret someone using that many as an idiot

[–] zerozaku 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can confirm

I use emojis when I want to convey that I'm trolling.

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[–] Siegfried 27 points 4 months ago

I see it as a laugh track in american sitcoms, trying to force me to feel something that isn't on the actor's performance.

[–] Zerlyna 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I love them but that was a bit much. 🤨

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

I love them too 🍆💦

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

One emoji is fine.

Two if you want to underline your reaction.

Three is the maximum allowed by the cringe police.

After three according to the judgement of the Oratrice Mecanique d'Analyse Cardinale you belong to the Facebook boomer jail. Enjoy the nationalist/racist/sexist/lame minion "memes".

When I see more than three laughing emojis a sitcom laughter is automatically playing in my head. It feels like being forced to laugh at gunpoint.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

People who put the clapping emoji between every word should be taken to the guillotine.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

what exactly have you seen people saying when they complain? when they do it like you did in the title, it's just too busy for my eyes, I've been in Discord servers where the moderators ask people to remove most of the Emojis from their username because of how annoying it is (to them apparently. I find it a little obnoxious but not enough to care).

I basically use them as tone indicators. like

omg 😭

omg 🙄

omg 🖕

omg 💀

omg 🥵

etc.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

Because I'm a millennial semi-luddite who (typically) prefers emoticons.*


*Contrary to popular opinion, emoticons ≠ emoji. :) is an emoticon, while 🙂 is an emoji. (Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine. Lol.)

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (7 children)

YES, emoticons are so much better than emojis!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] BassTurd 21 points 4 months ago

Excessive emojis make reading difficult. It's just as bad as posts. That. Are. Written. Like. This. My internal voice pauses for ever period, likewise, I have to interpret every inline emoji. It's mentally tiring, and while forums like this aren't formal, when I see abused emoji use, I instinctively write off a comment or post as juvenile and low quality. I'm more inclined to skip reading it entirely because of the extra effort required and my pre judgement of its contents.

Tagging an emoji to the end or light use to help convey emotions is fine and intuitive. I personally like them for quick response and like you, to add a little more context to text where the "voice" may be missed.

[–] Rhynoplaz 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I like one or two at the end of the sentence to help relay tone. As seen in:

OMG! HE'S DYING! 😂

OMG! HE'S DYING! 😭

Those are useful emojis.

[–] samus12345 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The best part is when boomers can't tell them apart. "Grandma died 😂"

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

I like emojis 😬

[–] asdfasdfasdf 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

One thing I really hate is when people use that clap emoji between every word to try to solidify what they're saying.

Doing that, or saying "full stop", etc. doesn't make me trust what you're saying more. Explain why what you're saying is correct. Use words, logic, and sources.

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[–] TheBananaKing 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Because this isn't a Spot The Dog book, and we don't need little picture of all the nouns.

On their own they're ambiguous and vague; with the matching word they're completely redundant.

What good does it do to say "I had pizza [little picture of pizza] for lunch"?

I'll use the occasional :) or such as befits the tone, but pointless hieroglyphics are pointless and annoying.

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[–] morphballganon 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I see emojis as text's substitute for body language. Body language is supposed to supplement the spoken word. Emojis should supplement the paragraph.

Trying to communicate with more emojis than text is akin to trying to communicate with more body language than spoken word.

Ever try to say something but forget the word, and you try to convey the meaning with body language instead? Overuse of emojis implies a similar lapse of thought.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Emojis to me are like a strongly flavored seasoning. It's only appropriate in specific contexts, and even in those contexts, just a pinch goes a long way. Too much and it can detract from the experience.

Emojipasta is grossly overseasoned food. But that's the point, obviously. It's the emoji version of those white women on Tiktok who throw three pounds of ground beef wrapped around an entire block of cheese in a baking sheet full of milk and bake it in the oven for rage clicks.

Me, personally, I usually don't need emoji seasoning. I'm fine with it plain. Besides, most emojis to me have all the class of drowning your entire meal in ranch dressing. There are a very small handful of exceptions. But that's just my lame opinion.

And of the ones I do find theoretically useful, I'm always hesitant to use them, because emoji rendering is platform specific. They're not quite like text, where the glyphs are entirely utilitarian and typeface it's written in conveys little to no information. But with emojis, the subleties pile up. A thinking emoji rendered on a Windows PC isn't quite the same as a thinking emoji on an iPhone, or various kinds of Android phones. Unless I'm on a platform like Twitter or Discord that forces all clients to use a single emoji set, I can never confidently send a precise emotion with an emoji.

Platforms like Discord that let you create your own emojis instead of using the comparatively sterile, corporate-approved, general purpose set provided in standard Unicode is another story. I like those and use them extensively. If Lemmy natively supported a Discord-esque system where instances or communities could define custom emojis that didn't rely on custom clients, plugins, or instance-specific rendering hacks, I'd use them all the time. Though this would, I presume, be to the extreme chagrin of many.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I've always found it annoying, can't speak for the rest of the Fediverse.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Man, yall emoji hatin' MF'ERs are gross.

🤮

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The emoji guy is giving Shrek a blowjob

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[–] Sidhean 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Why! Do users! Dislike! The use! Of emojis! On Lemmy!?"

Overused, they're just so tiring too read. I think, if you're gonna go that hard, just full send hieroglyphics and drop the text aspect.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Yeah but

⁣🍐🍌🍋🍋🍊🍊🍎🍎🍎
🍐🍏🍌🍋🍋🍊🍊🍎🍎
🍆🍐🍐🍌🍋🍋🍊🍊🍎
🍇🍇🍏      🍋🍊🍊
🍎🍆🍇  ⁣😎  🍋🍋🍊
🍒🍓🍇      🍌🍋🍋
🍊🍎🍉🍇🍆🍐🍐🍌🍋
🍊🍊🍓🍎🍇🍇🍏🍐🍌
🍋🍊🍊🍎🍓🍇🍇🍐🍏

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Imagine if every language in the world used the exact same alphabet, exact same words with the exact same spelling, and exact same sentences but the meaning of those words/sentences varied from person to person, region to region, in different contexts, and sometimes changed day to day. Then on top of that, the words even rendered differently from device to device.

Additionally, there was no way to look up what those words meant to the person writing them, who you don't even know. Even if you ask for clarification, there's less than 50% chance they'll respond at all, let alone provide a sincere, meaningful, and accurate answer.

That's what emojis are like to me. Sure, some of these same complaints apply to text-based communication as well, but emojis take it to the extreme.

I don't typically care that much if people use them -- for instance, to reinforce the meaning or intention of their message. But it's mildly annoying when the emojis are a message all of their own and that person is trying to communicate with me.

Additionally, there's an extremely high degree of correlation between people and messages that use a bunch of emojis and actual quality of the message/meaning being sent. In other words, if someone's using a lot of emojis to communicate, I can pretty much completely disregard anything they have to say because it almost certainly holds no value to me. And that's okay.

So maybe in a broader sense, comments/titles/descriptions with lots and lots of emojis is annoying similar to seeing advertisements at the top of my search results and interspersed in the front page posts. It's useless drivel that mucks up the experience.

And even to use your description as an example:

I don't understand at all how that emoji is necessary or even insightful. It seems completely contradictory to the "But seriously" at the start of the sentence, it doesn't seem like anybody with any degree of reading comprehension would mistake what you're saying as being something negative/nasty/mean/hurtful/etc so it's like if I ended my sentence with "and I'm currently chewing gum". Okay, nice to know I guess, but why would I need to be told that?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Using them like the title here, I hate them too. You only need a few, and they should be conveying the same emotion that the text is being written as. 😮‍💨

They can be pretty good at expressing sarcasm. Especially the eye roll one.

"Yeah. Because that looks good. 🙄"

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[–] UnfairUtan 10 points 4 months ago

They're great! Obviously they can be annoying when overused (unless as a joke), but I would never want to go back to a world without emojis. 😌

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Your title is why.

[–] GeneralEmergency 8 points 4 months ago

Because being a contrarian is the height of personality for a lot of people here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I think it might just be the old creeping in. Kids like emojis, and they weren't around when we were kids, so it is new and strange so I don't like it, etc.

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