[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 minute ago

Your freedom of speech argument falls flat: by selecting a strawnman you're ignoring that you're exercising that same right in this very diatribe.

Also, calling something "hate speech" just buys into the idea that government should have the authority to silence whomever it chooses to silence.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 21 minutes ago

Don't forget Kelly's Heroes!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

because Mike, I swear to god, you keep clicking that pen and I'm gonna find a new home for it

Hahahahah, oh man, I hear ya!

Seriously, I'm as anti-social as they come, but I've learned the value of people being in the same space. It's the way we're wired, and no, calls/video/virtual stuff is no replacement.

And I've had a million random conversations between calls/meetings that have solved many issues, or provided opportunity for improving relationships, etc. These conversations just don't happen when you're remote - I say this as someone who's worked hybrid since the 90's - there's no replacement for being in the same space. Again, I'm someone that finds being in the office exhausting - I'd rather be remote.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh,that cleanup at the end of day is brilliant!

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Narrator: Yes

Hahahaha, oh I feel you.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

So Mint can perform the same role as a tablet, which is what my elder family use, and they prefer it.

I keep seeing these posts and comments, trying to convince people This Is The Year of The Linux Desktop. That you have to try to convince people of this says it all.

My standard response to "just go Linux" :

I keep having to say this, as much as I like Linux for certain things, as a desktop it's still no competition to Windows, even with MS's awful shit going on.

As some background - I had my first UNIX class in about 1990. I wrote my first Fortran program on a Sperry Rand Univac (punched cards) in about 1985. Cobol was immediately after Fortran (wish I'd stuck with Cobol).

I run a Mint laptop. Power management is a joke. Configured as best as possible, walked in the other day and it was dead - as in battery at zero, won't even boot. Windows would never do this, unless you went out of your way to config power management to kill the battery (even then, to really kill it you have to boot to BIOS and let it sit, Windows will not let a battery get to zero).

There no way even possible via the GUI to config power management for things like low/critical battery conditions /actions.

There are many reasons why Linux doesn't compete with Windows on the desktop - this is just one glaring one.

Now let's look at Office. Open an Excel spreadsheet with tables in any app other than excel. Tables are something that's just a given in excel, takes 10 seconds to setup, and you get automatic sorting and filtering, with near-zero effort. The devs of open office refuse to support tables, saying "you should manage data in a proper database app". No, I'm not setting up a DB in an open-source competitor to Access. That's just too much effort for simple sorting and filtering tasks, and isn't realistically shareable with other people. I do this several times a day in excel, takes seconds.

Now there's that print monitor that's on by default, and can only be shut up by using a command line. Wtf? In the 21st century? How's that not "programmer level"?

Networking... Yea, samba works, but how do you clear creds you used one time to connect to a share, even though you didn't say "save creds"? Oh, yea, command line again or go download an app to clear them for for you. Smh.

Oh, you have a wireless Logitech mouse? Linux won't even recognize it. You have to search for a solution and go find a download that makes it work. My brand new wireless mouse works on any version of windows since 2000, at the least, and would probably work on Win95.

Someone else said it better than me:

Every time I've installed Linux as my main OS (many, many times since I was younger), it gets to an eventual point where every single thing I want to do requires googling around to figure out problems. While it's gotten much better, I always ended up reinstalling Windows or using my work Mac. Like one day I turn it on and the monitor doesn't look right. So I installed twenty things, run some arbitrary collection of commands, and it works.... only it doesn't save my preferences.

So then I need to dig into .bashrc or .bash_profile (is bashrc even running? Hey let me investigate that first for 45 minutes) and get the command to run automatically.. but that doesn't work, so now I can't boot.. so I have to research (on my phone now, since the machine deathscreens me once the OS tries to load) how to fix that... then I am writing config lines for my specific monitor so it can access the native resolution... wait, does the config delimit by spaces, or by tabs?? anyway, it's been four hours, it's 3:00am and I'm like Bryan Cranston in that clip from Malcolm in the Middle where he has a car engine up in the air all because he tried to change a lightbulb.

And then I get a new monitor, and it happens all damn over again. Oh shit, I got a new mouse too, and the drivers aren't supported - great! I finally made it to Friday night and now that I have 12 minutes away from my insane 16 month old, I can't wait to search for some drivers so I can get the cursor acceleration disabled. Or enabled. Or configured? What was I even trying to do again? What led me to this?

I just can't do it anymore. People who understand it more than I will downvote and call me an idiot, but you can all kiss my ass because I refuse to do the computing equivalent of building a radio out of coconuts on a deserted island of ancient Linux forum posts because I want to have Spotify open on startup EVERY time and not just one time. I have tried to get into Linux as a main dev environment since 1997 and I've loved/liked/loathed it, in that order, every single time.

I respect the shit out of the many people who are far, far smarter than me who a) built this stuff, and 2) spend their free time making Windows/Mac stuff work on a Linux environment, but the part of me who liked to experiment with Linux has been shot and killed and left to rot in a ditch along the interstate.

Now I love Linux for my services: Proxmox, UnRAID, TrueNAS, containers for Syncthing, PiHole, Owncloud/NextCloud, CasaOS/Yuno, etc, etc. I even run a few Windows VM's on Linux (Proxmox) because that's better than running Linux VM's on a Windows server.

Linux is brilliant for this stuff. Just not brilliant for a desktop, let alone in a business environment, or if you need things to "just work" as a user.

Linux doesn't even use a common shell (which is a good thing in it's own way), and that's a massive barrier for users. Fuck, Mint's shell doesn't support right click. Again, in the 21st century, WTF?

One more thing: process management. By default, Linux uses a process management model that gives equal time slices to all processes - including the GUI... So the UI can lag if you have high cpu. Windows prioritizes the UI by default so this happens less - I routinely run video conversions on a 5 year old SFF, and have no UI lag whatsoever, with the cpu at 90% for hours at a time. Yes, you can swap out process management on Linux, but that's kind of in the programming realm, no?

If it were 40 years ago, maybe Linux would've had a chance to beat MS, even then it would've required settling on a single GUI (which is arguably half of why Windows became a standard, the other half being a common API), a common build (so the same tools/utilities are always available), and a commitment to put usability for the inexperienced user first.

These are what MS did in the 1980's to make Windows attractive to the 3 groups who contend with desktops: developers/IT, business management, end users.

All this without considering the systems management requirements of even an SMB with perhaps a dozen users (let alone an enterprise with tens of thousands). As I support friends and family (a couple dozen) this is a very real issue. Trying to support the varied needs of even these few users would be a massive undertaking using Linux.

As an old teacher would say to me: "Who you trying to convince, me or you?"

[-] [email protected] -2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Linux doesn’t demand technical aptitude or computer science knowledge for normal day-to-day use cases.


Tell me how to turn off the print monitor in Mint? (Guess what, it requires a command line, in the 21st century!)

How to get a Logitech wireless mouse to work? (in windows, they just work, no software required, since Win95).

The average person has no idea how to do this stuff.

It the above statement were true, why do they have to write an article trying to convince people?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

As if peer review weren't massive fucking joke.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Simply there's no value for an individual/company to put in the effort.

I have zero need for IP6 in my home network, my company has zero need for it internally.

Honestly, IP6 is useful only for internet backbone at the moment. So long as a packet can reach an edge router/gateway, IP4 is fine internally (because that infrastructure is already in place, and transitioning is costly and has risk).

[-] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

After 30 years of running windows boxes, I've never been hacked.

But I've lost thousands of hours to update fucking my shit up.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

O & O Shutup on a thumbdrive

[-] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

God knows I don't want that crap either. They're always bastardized versions of full apps.

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