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The vice president told a crowd of roughly 20,000 in Dallas that former President Donald J. Trump had said he would terminate the Constitution in a second term.

“Consider: Donald Trump has openly vowed if re-elected he’ll be a dictator on day one, that he will weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies, round up peaceful protesters and throw them out of our country and even, and even and I quote, ‘terminate’ the United States Constitution,” Ms. Harris said.

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[–] morphballganon 115 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Those points are only alarming to intelligent, sane people. The problem is there's a cult of unintelligent, insane people in this country.

[–] BassTurd 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If the media focused on just this narrative half as much as the focus on Biden's age, which is an issue, it might actually reach enough ears enough times that the not lost people might be swayed. There aren't enough people and headlines referencing Trump's felonies, rapes, and views to dictate. I saw a few headlines when it was said, and people just said, "same old Trump". More people need to start speaking about it in the media as a serious matter. And literally continually refer to him as a rapist felon.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They just need a particularly ragebait-y conclusion to latch on to. Like the fact that the Constitution he wants to 'terminate' also includes all the amendments.
Including the second amendment.
The one that's misquoted constantly by republican gun nuts.

The title nearly writes itself. "Trump wants to take away your Second Amendment gun rights!"

[–] Boddhisatva 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He has literally talked about bypassing the 2nd Amendment.

Or, Mike, take the firearms first and then go to court, because that’s another system. Because a lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court, to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early. Like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida, he had a lot of firearms – they saw everything – to go to court would have taken a long time, so you could do exactly what you’re saying, but** take the guns first, go through due process second**. - Donald Trump

This is an actual quote from a White House meeting discussing the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

[–] CoggyMcFee 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People who already would vote Democrat need to be alarmed into making sure they vote their asses off

[–] morphballganon 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Well we can only vote once, though, legally

Some MAGAs got caught trying to vote twice last time

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[–] xc2215x 53 points 4 months ago (61 children)

Trump wants to be a dictator.

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[–] AuroraZzz 30 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Probably going to be the new dem nominee

[–] givesomefucks 41 points 4 months ago (14 children)

I mean, realistically we knew it four years ago...

Its why we kept trying to argue Biden needed a better VP. But moderates told us VPs don't matter.

I can hold my nose for Kamala, but fuck man. If there ain't a real primary next election I'm over the party.

I've voted D for president for literally 20 years now...

08 was the only time I didnt just vote against the Republican party.

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[–] chakan2 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nice of her to show up finally.

[–] krashmo 13 points 4 months ago

For real. I've been saying that since 2020. What the hell has she been up to? I heard more about Mike Pence during his tenure and I got the feeling he was trying to stay out of the spotlight most of the time.

[–] njm1314 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I just have no faith in her ability to beat Trump. She'll do worse than Biden ill bet.

[–] gibmiser 31 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I'm worried it will unite the sexists and racists behind trump

[–] Ensign_Crab 28 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Pretty sure they're already there.

Are we really gonna chase them as a constituency?

[–] Stovetop 8 points 4 months ago

More like they'll actually be motivated to show up at the polls or not throw their vote away on Joe Exotic because they're threatened by women of color.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Dems have been chasing them to the bottom of the barrel for some time now.

[–] gibmiser 6 points 4 months ago

No, more like I'm worried we will motivate more to show up at the polls.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

they were already united.

this is about mobilization and harris may be able to bring a wider, deeper pool of voters to the polls. I can tell you, where I am, there is absolutely no fire or enthusiasm for biden and we will miss warm bodies at polls pulling D levers because of it.

[–] SeriousMite 12 points 4 months ago

They’re already voting for trump.

[–] TrickDacy 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Lol as if sexists and racists are voting democrat

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There are a lot of people that don't realize they are sexist, or racist. They are surrounded by people that all also don't realize they are racist, or sexist but they will start finding all the flaws in them. They won't say "I don't trust a woman as president " but they will coincidently find other flaws in the person because they are involuntarily being more critical of them.

The point is, there are racist and sexists voting for Biden that wouldn't vote for Kamala. They just don't realize they are sexist.

I live in rural Arizona. I am essentially an expert on these types of people.

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[–] Ensign_Crab 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know. One thing that she's really good at is going on the attack. Go back and watch her in Senate hearings. If there's anything we need post-Biden, it's someone who will take the fight to Trump instead of bickering with him about golf and letting him control the narrative. Assuming that she hasn't let those skills atrophy in the interim, of course.

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[–] emax_gomax 17 points 4 months ago

She's not senile and Biden is basically winning on a platform of not trump so I can only imagine she'll do better. The people don't like Biden, they dislike trump. No one currently in the running is anyone's first choice and pretending otherwise is just madness, so someone who has the advantage of not being fascist and not being senile only sounds like an improvement.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 11 points 4 months ago

Same here. But it's not a lack of faith in her, it's a lack of faith in Americans.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think so. She's no Joe from the 2012 vp debates, but she's also no Joe from the first 2024 presidential debate.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't trip over that bar on the floor

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Fuckin tell me about it

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