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[–] [email protected] 138 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)
  1. Ban abortion
  2. Ban divorce
  3. Lower marriage age to 12.
  4. You can now have a child sex slave, thank Jesus! God bless all.

I think this is the Christian plan for marriage and for childhood for females.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If you get them young enough, you can avoid that troublesome think for yourself phase.

[–] pivot_root 28 points 4 months ago

I'll give you an upvote for the satire/sarcasm, but I want you to know that it comes with a feeling of disgust towards myself for upvoting those words.

[–] mojofrododojo 6 points 4 months ago

If you get them young enough, you can avoid that troublesome think for yourself phase.

sounds a lot like the plan religions use.

[–] tootoughtoremember 40 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For the group railing against Sharia law the loudest, they sure do love to legislate religious beliefs. I guess the real problem was Sharia just wasn't going far enough.

[–] Diplomjodler3 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The problem is that those filthy heathens follow the wrong holy book.

[–] CharlesDarwin 2 points 4 months ago

The irony is that they are all Abrahamic and even worship the same god (Allah/Yahweh/Jehovah - all the same).

[–] nutsack 2 points 4 months ago

im tweeting this

[–] [email protected] 84 points 4 months ago

Let's start with divorcees not being allowed to run in the 2024 election if it is so incredibly unethical and all

[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Conservatives have bad ideas about nearly everything. They should under no circumstances be allowed to have any power. I'd even say they're an existential threat to the US and the rest of humanity.

It's far past time to stop treating them as just folks with a different opinion. This is not "oh well they wanted to paint the bedroom walls green and I wanted blue."

Someone announcing themselves a conservative should be taken as a declaration of a threat. Removing them from power is self defense.

[–] JigglySackles 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

The conservatives opinions bother me. But the authoritarianism is the bigger issue to me. This desire to force their opinions and wills on other people instead of living their lives as they want and leaving others alone is far more problematic.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The problem though is tht once the conservative Republicans joined hand with the religious right decades ago, it's been on a steady course towards authoritarianism

[–] JigglySackles 2 points 4 months ago

Agreed. It's why I'll always oppose them.

[–] Delusional 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And what really irks me is that there needs to be some semblance of authoritarianism to stop their authoritarianism. Otherwise they'll keep pushing and pushing and won't ever stop.

[–] Buddahriffic 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's like the paradox of tolerance. Or "extreme situations call for extreme measures".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The "paradox" of tolerance isn't a paradox, it's a social contract. If you do not abide by the terms of the contract, you are not protected by it. It's that simple.

[–] Buddahriffic 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Treating it as a social contract where tolerance is limited in certain situations is a resolution of the paradox. The paradox itself is just "if you try to tolerate everything, you'll have to tolerate intolerance" or "you can't maximize tolerance by tolerating everything". Though that second one is more of an irony than a paradox.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

And that's fair, I guess in that sense it is a true paradox. It just appears a little different in theory and in practice - the theory is the paradox, the practice is not.

Sorry, calling out that it's a social contract is a bit of a knee-jerk response for me, after years of having people whip out the paradox of tolerance as some kind of "gotcha, LIBS!!!" because being tolerant of unfamiliar lifestyles doesn't mean I won't punch a nazi when it's relevant. And that's poorly understood. My rights end where yours begin, and vice versa, but if you start actively infringing on the rights of others and souring that contract, it is our duty as righteous citizens to put you back in your box. Sometimes that means "hey knock it off asshole", sometimes that means hunting down bigots and deleting their kneecaps. Depends what you're guilty of and where.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I agree with what you're getting at, but "conservative" is relative and doesn't actually indicate specific beliefs, so "conservatives should never have any power" can be easily twisted once the conservatives we'd currently think of are gone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

What word would you prefer? I considered "Republicans" but that doesn't catch people outside the US. "Contemporary Republicans or people who would vote for them" isn't very catchy

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The solution is simple, as it is for gay marriage. Marriage is not recognized by the state/government.

[–] MegaUltraChicken 45 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yep. At the very least, just make everything a civil union that any two consenting adults can enter into. Religious people can still get "married", it just has nothing to do with the government.

[–] FuglyDuck 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What? And take away the ability to piss on people?

[–] AbidanYre 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hey man. What you and your civil partner do in private is up to you.

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[–] MegaUltraChicken 4 points 4 months ago

I'm sure there will still be plenty of eager consenting adults that we can all piss on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Why limit it to two? I say allow any amount of people in a civil union, or allow one person to have a civil union with multiple people separately. It's mostly for visits in the hospital, parental rights, stuff like that.

Of course, that makes residence/citizenship based on relationships complicated, but that's mostly an issue caused by closed national borders being a fucked up concept in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Maybe they should make it super bureaucratic and you have to pay to renew your civil union every 7 years, otherwise it dissolves.

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit 26 points 4 months ago (6 children)

They want laws that follow ancient religious texts, to control women, force everyone into marriage, prosecute homosexuals, ban birth control and get rid of media that go against their narrative.

What I'm wondering is, why the fuck do they not like Islamists?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

They're brown

[–] dumblederp 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Most religions feel that anyone not in their religion is beneath them, or a lesser person. Believers are going to heaven, well meaning pious atheists are going to burn in hell.

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[–] kromem 3 points 4 months ago

I think they largely do envy them and their social control and want the same, just for their religious beliefs instead.

[–] linearchaos 3 points 4 months ago

That's how religion keeps power. Only our group are righteous and are doing it right.

[–] cristo 3 points 4 months ago

Because a different guy a few hundred years later said some of the same stuff while also saying some different stuff.

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[–] Rayspekt 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How backwards can you be lmao

[–] Diplomjodler3 14 points 4 months ago

Just wait. They're only getting started.

[–] CharlesDarwin 3 points 4 months ago

You don't really want to see that question answered in the form of their implementation.

[–] Treczoks 24 points 4 months ago

The old "We are suffering (because we are stupid), so you should suffer, too!"

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 19 points 4 months ago

Why not? They live with an abusive god who constantly threatens them with punishment if they don’t follow a bunch of conflicting rules and won’t love you or reward you unless you kiss his ass. You can never leave the relationship or check out any other gods, or just be single, either. You’re trapped.

They want everyone else to be trapped in abusive relationships, too.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

Seems like the Republicans core voting block are men too terrible to be with unless you are forced to by the state. Winning strategy

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh, so arsenic will be back on the table?

[–] Evrala 3 points 4 months ago

Arsenic? Oh no officer no poison here! Just a bottle of Aqua Tofana.

[–] Got_Bent 10 points 4 months ago

Next up, mandatory marriage? Like if you're single past age twenty one or so, you're criminally charged? Maybe sent as cannon fodder in the colonies?

[–] MehBlah 10 points 4 months ago

Of course they are. The men and I use that term loosely are trying to make women chattel again. The next step for them after that is to make other chattel. They dream of the mid east style government.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

You don't need divorce if you never get married. 👍

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