this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2024
169 points (88.9% liked)

No Stupid Questions

34255 readers
565 users here now

No such thing. Ask away!

!nostupidquestions is a community dedicated to being helpful and answering each others' questions on various topics.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)


Rule 1- All posts must be legitimate questions. All post titles must include a question.

All posts must be legitimate questions, and all post titles must include a question. Questions that are joke or trolling questions, memes, song lyrics as title, etc. are not allowed here. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.



Rule 2- Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.



Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.



Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.



Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Questions which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.



Rule 6- Regarding META posts and joke questions.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-question posts using the [META] tag on your post title.

On fridays, you are allowed to post meme and troll questions, on the condition that it's in text format only, and conforms with our other rules. These posts MUST include the [NSQ Friday] tag in their title.

If you post a serious question on friday and are looking only for legitimate answers, then please include the [Serious] tag on your post. Irrelevant replies will then be removed by moderators.



Rule 7- You can't intentionally annoy, mock, or harass other members.

If you intentionally annoy, mock, harass, or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.



Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.



Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.



Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.



Credits

Our breathtaking icon was bestowed upon us by @Cevilia!

The greatest banner of all time: by @TheOneWithTheHair!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Seems pretty dumb in our biological design to not be able to regenerate such a functional (and also easily breakable) part of our body.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 115 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Your baby teeth and adult teeth all began developing before you were even born. Our DNA still contains all the genes that sharks use to grow their endless conveyor belt of replacement teeth, but in humans these genes are deactivated by the 20th week of foetal development.

The advantages of keeping the same teeth through adulthood is that they can be securely anchored in the jawbone, which allows us to chew tough plants and grains.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/why-cant-we-regrow-teeth

though a drug is being developed that could allow us to regenerate teeth

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

You’re saying we could reactivate the gene and get infinite teeth?? 🫨

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Possible, but it may come with downsides you don't like.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let me guess, the downside is infinite teeth.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

The downside could be something that nobody has imagined yet. That is the problem with change. I'm not against this, but I demand reasonable study. (but not unreasonable levels - vaccines and GMO have been studied enough to conclude they are generally safe despite people yelling more study needed)

[–] MeekerThanBeaker 20 points 2 weeks ago

Teething 3.0.

[–] jewbacca117 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Imagine teeth grew like our nails and had to be clipped regularly

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Tanoh 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

worse, you have to pay to stop them from growing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Isn’t this the Street Sharks origin story?

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] jaybone 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Side effects may include dry mouth, diarrhea, attacking swimmers at the beach. Do not take Teethenall if you are allergic to shellfish.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (9 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You said exactly why in your post: "...our biological design..."

There's no such thing. We evolved. That means we're a mix of traits passed along over time by individuals that managed to live long enough to breed.

That's it. That's the whole explanation for any question about "why don't humans do x thing as part of our biology?"

Any given trait is all about lasting long enough to make babies. Once that occurs, all that's left is a general proclivity to ensuring the babies survive long enough to do the same. Regrowing teeth isn't part of that. It's a niche trait that isn't as useful as you'd think for humans. We don't need to gnaw at things, we don't need to crack bones with our mouths, nothing that would make a third set of teeth an advantage, or different teeth an advantage.

Teeth are not easily breakable. We actually can crack bone with our jaws and the teeth will usually survive if the bone isn't too thick; we just have better tools for that because way back when, the proto-humans that used tools had more babies that survived to make more babies. You have to abuse and/or neglect your teeth to break them for the vast majority. There are congenital issues where that isn't the case, but we've also bred ourselves into a social species that takes care of each other, so we aren't limited to a harsh, primitive survival level of things.

I really don't get why people think of teeth as fragile. They're incredibly durable for what we need them for, and require only minimal care to last well beyond breeding age. Even if you factor in modern diets being bad for teeth, regular care for them (brushing and flossing) can stave off those effects for decades. Go search up some of the dental research on old human bodies from archaeological sites. People survived very well with just one set of adult teeth.

And, some humans do have extras that can come in later in life, though it's very rare and comes with drawbacks (according to the last lady I dated that was an anthropologist anyway). Supposedly, having the extras actually weakens the regular adult teeth and makes them more prone to damage. There's always a tradeoff in things like this.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] themeatbridge 49 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Just a note, biology doesn't have a design. If you're looking for some kind of logic or plan, you'll be disappointed.

Things are the way they are because a long time ago, it helped something survive and procreate. That's it, survive and procreate. Every other consideration is secondary.

We can theorize about why two sets of teeth were advantageous at some point, but that doesn't provide an answer to "why?"

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Because they last long enough to reproduce. After that, evolution doesn't care.

[–] kinsnik 37 points 2 weeks ago

The diet that we evolved to consume (fruits, lean meats and fibrous plants) was much less damaging to our teeth than the current high-sugar, high-fat, highly processed foods. And human lifespans was shorter, so less time for teeth to damage. So there wasn’t a strong evolutionary need to regenerate them (unlike an animal like sharks)

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There are no stupid questions. But there are grammatically flawed questions.

[–] ShadowCatEXE 8 points 2 weeks ago

I tried to rephrase his question in my head, and I ended up with “Why do not teeth degenerate.”

I need sleep.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No selection pressure after the age at which our adult teeth fail

[–] ameancow 20 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

This concept can be scaled up to a lot of things, like why most of our systems break down. Nature only maintains what is needed to continue the species, everything that happens to you afterwards, with the exception of child-rearing, will be abandoned by nature unless someone gains some trait from living longer that helps the species propagate.

But nature is kind of silly, it doesn't make "choices" so some of the adaptations can be weird. Like how our retina's blood supply formed on the front of the retina so your brain has to always edit out your blood vessels from your vision and you can only see it using special tricks of light and then BAM all the spaghetti appears that's been there all along.

Imagine what else our brain tells us and shows or doesn't show us to make sense of what evolution has turned us into.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] AnalogyAddict 33 points 2 weeks ago

Because when it comes to survival until procreation, you don't need more than two sets.

[–] LesserAbe 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah, if evolution is so great, how come we can't fly??

[–] kautau 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Philosophical take.

We can. We figured out how. Thousands of humans fly every day across the planet faster than any bird. We can also live in environments we were definitely not designed to whether it’s with clothing, fire, or advanced HVAC systems. And we’ve pushed that further with our own little atmospheres under the sea or in space.

Evolution didn’t stop with us. It is us. Evolution, in trying every possible permutation landed on an organism that adapts the world around it, rather than waiting generations to adapt to the world around it.

Now it’s a matter of if our social and societal evolution will see us succeed or end in failure. If we don’t solve the climate crises we created, if we end up murdering each other, if we get smacked by an unforeseen object from space, potentially built by even more advanced evolution, we lost, and evolution will continue. Evolution is us, but far too often we’re too blind to see that gift, and advance responsibly

[–] NemoWuMing 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

And how come we need to sleep?

And eat food?

And why not have wheels for feet?

And what would a chair look like if our knees bent the other way?

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] MrJameGumb 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You should call customer service and complain

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I've been on hold for decades.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Did you ask to speak to the manager? That usually works.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're right, this design isn't intelligent at all!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Wait until y'all learn about the birth canal and our skulls that fold.

[–] Nacktmull 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Because our design is not particularly intelligent ...

Edit: Scientific proof of my thesis:

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] set_secret 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Almost like there isn't a God and we weren't designed hey?

[–] Boozilla 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sharks laughin' at us talkin' apes.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are VERY few circumstances in nature where someone in nature who gets all their teeth knocked out is gonna survive long enough to reproduce

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean.. we grow teeth a total of 3 times. The first for our baby teeth, the second time for our 'mature' teeth, and the make up 'wisdom' teeth to fill any that might've fallen out at that point. I'm guessing those three growths were the most needed for humans early survival before we got all fancy with farming and hygiene. At which point we kind of broke survival of the fittest and things just kind of happen now.

Kind of like how humans are one of a handful of mammals that didn't evolve out of menstruation.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

I think they are intended to, and they actually do... once (child teeth). Probably just broken due to genetic decay or environment (e.g. if humans are no longer fully maturing and what we call adult teeth are actually "intermediate" teeth). I suspect a deeper understanding of the recent tooth-regrowth drug(s) may provide a clue as to why it is currently broken.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›