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The human race is so dumb. We could be building spaceships and exploring the stars and the depths of the oceans. Instead we are being manipulated by propaganda to fight with each other while nefarious forces wrestle for power. This timeline sucks….
I've been thinking the same thing every day for the last 10 years or so..
As a child of the 80s... yeah.
David Bowie and Prince were holding this all together. When they went, the world lost its mind.
Let's start with housing? I'm all for exploration, but we don't need 3 or 4 billionaires wasting resources, and innovation with non-compete contracts, when one central agency would be more efficient, freeing up resources to fix the logistics of feeding everyone, and housing everyone.
Nonsense. They aren't mobilizing. Loud pundits are telling them to mobilize.
Where are they gathering? They weren't even outside Trump's trial in any sizable numbers.
This is some fearmongering bullshit based on stupid nonsense people like fucking Dan Bongino of all people on said on fucking Truth Social. Even most of MAGA world isn't on Truth Social.
i mean, they already mobilized and attacked once. January 6 was not a spur of the moment thing. if you watched the hearings for it you'd know that the fbi knew about j6 for months and warned everyone they could.
presumably there's much the same kind of planning happening right now.
That planning was coordinated, in part, with the administration in power. Which can't be done this time.
Problem is there's a high likelyhood it will be done come Nov 2024/Jan 2025.
That entire "revolution" was halted by a single gunshot. Hopefully they don't injure innocent bystanders when they check again if they're brave enough for terrorism.
Tucker Carlson, the rightwing media heavyweight, waxed apocalyptic: “Import the third world, become the third world. That’s what we just saw. This won’t stop Trump. He’ll win the election if he’s not killed first. But it does mark the end of the fairest justice system in the world. Anyone who defends this verdict is a danger to you and your family.”
Seriously wtf. These people are trying to get people killed.
I'm not really sure it should be up to 70 year olds whether we have a civil war. It's the young people that will have to live in it's wake, should it happen.
You can apply that logic to most decisions this country makes.
Why the hell are we letting 70 year olds dictate energy policy? They're not gonna see the full brunt of climate change.
Why are they involved in foreign policy? They're not going off to war.
Economics? Most of the people they talk to are retired or rich. tf do they know about making rent in 2024?
Honestly, this may sound controversial... but if we deny teens the vote, I'm not certain why the hell we allow retirees to vote.
Can't vote for the first 18 years of your life? Can't vote for the last 18 either (based on average life expectancy), just watch how things improve dramatically if such a measure is put in place.
Same logic with holding elected positions, if people younger than X can't be elected then people older than (life expectancy - X) can't either. And yes, I realize that it leaves very few years for men to become president in the US' case and that's not a bad thing at all.
Anything that motivates increasing the national average life expectancy is a good thing
I mean - its the press amplifying the opinion of some irrelevant old geezer who's just calling others to violence. I wouldn't really concern yourself too much with these idiots.
"When you can rig an election, then weaponize the government and the courts against a former President, what other alternative is there? I’m almost 70 and would rather die than live in tyranny."
I guarantee there are some genuine conservative asshats who fervently hold that belief.
Probably, but I wouldn't expect them to be able to spell half those words.
I hope the country does reconstruction properly after Civil War II instead of coddling traitors and letting them put roughshod Confederate statues in town squares.
They didn't put up the statues. Most of them specifically said to never make statues of them, such as both Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee. Woodrow Wilson wrote a good portion of "Southern Revisionist History," using his Yale History Credentials, and ordered the erection of almost all those statues during his presidency.
I agree with the rest of your sentiment.
Class civil war being instigated by wealthy oligarchs who don’t really care how it happens, but they’re intent on bringing about a coup one way or another. So they amp up the chaos and division and will look to take advantage of it. Right-wingers are being fed a bunch of bullshit and they’re trying to deify Trump, one of the worst examples of a human being in history, and getting pushed to violence to protect a living piece of excrement.
The Justice Dept really needed to come down harder on Trump and everyone else involved in Jan. 6. They showed their cards then and what they’ve been planning all along, we shouldn’t gave given them a second chance.
I doubt the oligarchs really want a civil war. A civil war would shrink their labor force.
And their profit base. They want right wingers in control because they tax them less, but they don't want a religious dark era either. They want to sell lots of shit to lots of people preferably on credit.
these victims of indoctrination are so mindfucked as to think they're going to do a single goddamn thing vs the us military.
after getting nothing done on 1/6 vs a handful of capitol police who mostly stepped aside and ushered them in. good luck, bumpkins. i guess
No one is mobilizing shit, people are still fed and clothed, housed and have jobs and still have their entertainment...these loudmouths aren't going to do shit. They just talk a lot but at the end of the day, they're not going to start shit.
It's exactly the same as all of us going "hurdur guillotine time."
We vent about it, but no one is actually going to get violent.
Imagine though? "Global history classes 2040: America had 2 civil wars. One was over literally owning human beings and the other was over an orange man who could never have enough attention. America is a silly place that you should never go to, just laugh at from afar."
Well, it'd be more like "the 2nd was a proxy conflict over a figurehead after news networks were coopted by conservative billionaires and used for 30+ years to sow seeds of stochastic terrorism after laws regarding lying on TV were eliminated."
They kinda are, though. Some mobilized on Jan 6. Some have been going out and showing open displays of nazi hate, complete with sieg heil salutes. Some have been threatening drag queen story hour at the libraries by standing outside with guns strapped to their backs and hips (because we all know that libraries are the most dangerous place for these guys -- too many facts in books i guess). Some are open-carrying at polling places during voting.
Some are shooting up Planned Parenthoods. Some are setting pride centers on fire. Some are going after non-christian places of worship.
It's all happened.
But when they do this stuff -- when they show us who they are and try to intimidate us and terrorize us, believe them. They are dangerous.
They wouldn't wear a paper mask to save their own family. They're not going to drop 100 pounds and die for their asshole king.
I’m almost 70 and would rather die than live in tyranny.
Go ahead, then, put the barrel to your head and pull the trigger.
Oh, it's actually about oppressing others and not living under tyranny? Thought so.
You guys don't understand, this time they're double-super-mega-serious, not like all the other times these overly fearful ammosexuals talked a good game from behind their screens but completely failed to follow up in the real world.
I've never wanted someone to die from aggressive pancreatic cancer until Trump
Trump seems to bring out the worst in everyone.
"It's not you I hate, Trump. I hate what I became because of you."
"Oh, wait, no, I do also hate you."
don't underestimate armed fascists like people are doing ITT, or you might end up in a deeper fascism type situation.
fascists have to be dealt with asap.
Guy in a MAGA hat, running: "...the US is under threat..."
Goose, chasing: "under threat by who, motherfucker??"
One thing to note is that Republicans have been talking like this for years. Minion Death Cult (tagline "The World Is Ending. Your Uncle’s Facebook Feed Is Responsible. We’re Documenting it.") have coined "Minion's Law", which is that right-wing comments on a news story will have at least one person calling for civil war.
Does this mean we are at zero risk for a second civil war? Of course not. But finding people online calling for civil war isn't sufficient cause to be worried; there needs to be at least some evidence of mobilization, as there was leading up to January 6th (for instance).
pick a side, or YOU are next
So if I don’t a pick a side I’m first in line?
Stupid. Obviously he means pick his side or they’re going to do bad things to you.
“Dan, seriously now,” one user wrote in response to Bongino. “I see no way out of all this mess without bloodshed. When you can rig an election, then weaponize the government and the courts against a former President, what other alternative is there? I’m almost 70 and would rather die than live in tyranny.”
Go right ahead, pal. No one will miss you.
I'll just say what George W. Bush liked to say during his presidency. "Bring it on." If you try to kill me, you best not miss.
I remember watching movies as a kid where the children were these clever little heroes and the adults were morons or bad guys they had to deal with. It’s fun for kids to see the tables turned and watch the children in the movie save the day or outsmart the dumb adult.
I got a very strong vibe like that (but worse) while reading this story. These people are caught up in a fantasy they’ve been sold where they have to save everything they love from evil. They seem to live in a fantasy movie world where if you feel like the righteous underdog, and other “good” people tell you the same thing, then surely you are the hero! You can’t listen to evidence and reason from outsiders, they’re just trying to trick you!