“I’m not sure the public would stand for it,” he said. “I think it would be tough for the public to take. You know, at a certain point, there’s a breaking point.”
This mf really trying to do it again.
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House arrest is not a penalty that would help him rehabilitate.
He needs an actual jail to learn anything.
At very least he should be doing community service. Maybe picking trash on a highway.
I don't think he's capable of learning any lessons from any sentence the court can provide.
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Maybe picking trash on a highway.
He has already spent years picking up trash all over the country.
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House arrest without internet, telephone, television, constant visitors: that would work.
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One year per count and no electronic communications allowed? A violation adds one more year to the sentence automatically.
That yellow is gonna White really shiny real quick.
How many years left do you think he has? A year per violation is already more years than he has left. So, a year per violation just means more years he'd never serve.
Instead, a violation should mean something like a week in jail with no delays--straight to jail. That would actually have a meaningful impact on him.
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It won't work though. Remember how he asked for mass gatherings at his trial and it didn't happen?
January 6th required a huge number of Trump rallygoers from all over the country to mass in one place, for them to get fired up to commit violence by multiple speakers, for Trump himself to say that he personally was going to go with them to the Capitol, and for Trump to do virtually nothing about the insurrection for hours.
There might be lone wolf attacks here and there, but there won't be some great MAGA uprising.
There might be lone wolf attacks here and there, but there won't be some great MAGA uprising.
Even that could turn scary though. One lone wolf attack could inspire more and those inspire even more, eventually leading us to an American Years of Lead
The Trump base has shown us how insane they are before, I don't want to underestimate what they'll do next.
Maybe, but don't underestimate good old American laziness.
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It doesn't matter what he is ok with, he will do whatever the judge decides.
Merchan will remain moderate. Prison is possible, but not probable for nonviolent class E felonies. The last thing he wants is to feed Trump’s attorneys argument for bias at appeal.
Part of sentencing is determined by the defendant’s character, and Merchan has already spoken against his interest in jailing a former President for violating the gag order. However, Trump has over a month to demonstrate his character prior to sentencing, and he’s not doing himself any favors in that department.
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Prison, please. If it ends up being just between those two then jail. House arrest is not punishment for him.
Even if he gets house arrest, I just hope they take away internet access from him, so we can get the break from seeing his stupid name in the news
House arrest means he can't hold campaign rallies.
appears at rallies via a zoom call, crumpled shirt and house in disarray in the background.
"Look at what they did to me I can't even have a maid come clean I just....they'll take yours too!"
You know, I'm okay with this that you propose.
Of course he'd be okay with house arrest. Mara Largo has golf and beautiful cake and no poors.
Jail would be him and the Secret Service in solitary. I can't imagine he'd be okay with even that.
You're looking at it from the wrong angle.
He wants a tough sentence with jail time.
- As a technically "first offender" they can argue that it shows obvious bias and get a favourable appeal result.
- It plays to Putin and other autocrat propaganda. "See how the US actually is, we have the same democracy here" sort of thing.
- Most importantly, it plays to his cult and to his ego, he gets to stoke dangerous things which very nearly almost worked last time (only thanks to Pence and the few cops who stood up to the mob.) and he gets a ton of attention from his cult for it.
I think he'll think that until the cold wet fish of reality slaps him in the face.
Because it would help his martyrdom and his image as a victim, further “justifying” calls for violence and helping divide and disrupt our society to an even greater extent.
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Honestly, I'm perfectly ok for him to go to jail for even a week. Then we would have already setup the foundation on how we would jail him in the future, indefinitely.
Of course. He's tough. He plays fair. He accepts responsibility for his actions. He obeys the law even when he's above it.
Liar.
Jail, I vote Jail, please I wanna see that bastard in a jumpsuit
Felonies in New York, does that mean Rikers? Asking for a friend
Rikers is a jail which means it houses three groups. Those are pretrial detainee, people convicted of misdemeanors (crimes punishable by up to a year), or people convicted of felonies (crimes punishable by more than a year) but who were sentenced to less than a year.
If he is sentenced to incarceration for over a year, Trump would go to one of New York's prisons. If under a year, he could go to a jail like Rikers.
*edit to fix horrible phrasing.
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Ah I see someone told him a new word, "martyr" and he liked it.
You know who else was put under house arrest for a week and forced to pay a small fine?
Jesus.
Ugh, I saw another link there, “rumored running mate Tom Cotton”. Whoever he picks, it will be one of the shittiest people possible.
I'm old enough to remember thinking how crazy it was that GW was somehow worse than Reagan...
Then trump showed up.
It seems like a forgone conclusion whoever is next will be worse. And I don't know why everyone else keeps acting like the issue with modern republicans is trump. trump is the symptom, it might be the symptom that kills us, but it's still a symptom.
So if you think trumps's VP will be one the shittiest people, just wait to see whoever runs as a Republican next.
It's been decades, we need to recognize this is a long term problem, and our solution needs to reflect that.
Constantly moving right, just drives the republicans further right to differentiate.
If Dems embraced progress, Republicans would run someone more moderate in an attempt to steal moderate voters. I don't think we'd lose as much as we do now, but even if we did the worst would be someone closer to Biden than trump. And with wins meaning something again, participation goes up. Which is why Dems would win more.
Essentially, never think republicans have reached rock bottom, you'll be constantly surprised. They can always go lower...
I 100% agree and have observed that myself. Whenever it’s like “oh thank god Hastert is gone” or “phew, finally rid of Boehner” they manage to find someone even worse.
Also, good point that Trump gets too much credit. He didn’t create this bizarre Republican psyche - he’s simply a perfect embodiment of their behavior.
The disease is the media, owned by the rich with an agenda who have no oversight
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He won't spend a day in prison. I don't believe it will happen. Even if he gets sentenced, he'll just drop dead before setting foot in a cell.
That's fine too
He says that like he does not understand he will not be able to shit post for a while and when he does it will only be for a short amount of time.
Could be an epic time out for him
Guarentee you he gets a ghost twitter writer who just says what trump WOULD say. Doesn't even need communication with him. Just send general hate speech out into the base, and rile them up. Then when he gets out, act like he had people on the inside with him, helping him out, because they believed in his cause.
The news will pick up that it's not him when the jail itself investigates how he's tweeting, and watch him in real time as new tweets show up.
Doesn't matter.
He just will say those are lies, and it really was him. His base will eat it up.
We live in stupid times.
The thing is that no matter who they pick as a ghost writer... it's going to be noticeably too coherent or thought out to really be him. His base won't buy it as easily.
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Be funny if the judge reads that to him at sentencing.
Ok, cool, jail it is. A huge W for America.
Prison!
I never thought I’d agree with Trump on anything, but here we are.
If he thinks they're the same...
I wonder if the Trump huffers will change their tune when photos of a pale, obese old man with that one hair dangling down his neck get published.
Yeah... house arrest in Mar-a-lago... i'd expect everyone everywhere would be ok with indefinite house arrest there as long as Trump wasn't there
The more this goes, the more I want to save the game somewhere and look what happens if he wins
Imagine inauguration in jail, and President ruling the country from the cell
Ok, sure. He lists his properties as private residences so give him the choice to travel between any of his properties but while under house arrest visitors must me excluded and go by the same rules as any other person visitor of granted access.
He'll get house arrest but he'll lose all his businesses.
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