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Conservatives tried to force all schools in California to out trans kids. They just failed. (www.lgbtqnation.com)
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[–] [email protected] 152 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

In high school, I had friends that were beaten by their parents for coming out as gay. It seems like that's gotten extremely rare in the past decade outside of creepy religious folks - I hope that eventually trans folk can come out as openly trans without facing retribution but we're just not fucking there yet and it should be an individual's choice as to when to do it anyways...

So uh, fuck conservatives. I guess that's the point of my ramble. Fuck Conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago

My general thought is that conservatives just lack the ability to empathize to the same extent that liberals do - whether genetically or due to their upbringing, they just have "us vs. the other" deeply ingrained.

My favorite example of this was Dick Cheney, who had an oddly socially liberal stance on gay marriage... and, coincidentally, had a gay daughter.

[–] shiroininja 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean it’s the same with racist assholes end up having mixed grandchildren. Flips them completely From what I’ve seen

[–] njm1314 22 points 5 months ago

What do you think conservators are so terrified of college and education in general? Familiarity and experience breeds acceptance. When you get to know people of other backgrounds and other experiences another lifestyles you begin empathize with them. It's as antithetical to conservatism as you can get. Conservatism only flourishes in the dark. Only in small ignorant closed off communities can conservatism grow. A lot like mold really.

[–] assassin_aragorn 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if this is something unique to millennials. I firmly believe schools shouldn't have to disclose anything regarding a student's sexuality or gender identity to the parents, because I remember how intolerant and downright brutal parents were to their LGBT kids when I was in high school. I prefer to let the school and teachers keep things from parents, because I don't trust conservative parents to not abuse their children.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ayup, before millenials the queer kids would just stay in the closet for self preservation but we were right on the border where kids wanted to express themselves but occasionally ate a lot of pain for it. I hope it was just a millennial thing (for sexual orientation at least) because it fucking sucked... and I hope the same thing happening to trans kids is mostly just a Gen Z and Alpha thing because that also fucking sucks.

[–] assassin_aragorn -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The parents in this case are Gen X aren't they? That makes sense I guess since it's a 50/50 split generation on liberal and conservative. I'd be extremely surprised to see the children of millennials having this problem though. Millennials have been an unusual generation because they haven't been becoming more conservative

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It's pretty common for families to skip a generation especially in developed countries - if you're having kids in your thirties it's extremely unlikely you'll be in adjacent generations since those are usually defined as 15 years long. So most millenials had Boomer parents while Gen Z mostly have Gen X parents. Bear in mind that gender role fuzzing mostly entered pop culture with Gen X.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (2 children)

When the "Won't You Think About The Children" crowd thinks about the children.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Conservatives thinking about children seems to always lead to abuse of some kind

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

End child marriage in the U.S.? You might be surprised at who's opposed

No, I really wouldn't be.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yep. If it's something cartoonishly evil, you can bet your ass it's conservatives doing it and then blaming everybody else

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Or doing it and claiming it's actually a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

True, and it's usually both at the same time – if they do it it's good, but when they claim The Enemy (ie. anyone left of the Strasserites) does it it's bad.

[–] cmbabul 5 points 5 months ago

Straight up, there isn’t anything anyone could be opposed to or for at this juncture in time that would actually surprise me. Social media, advertising, and grifts have broken our consensus reality and we desperately need that context to to function as a society

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Republican Sexual Predators, Abusers, and Enablers – currently up to 52 parts and 1300 reports …

[–] Fedizen 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Is there a crime being committed to children?

Republicans: Legalize it

Are adults doing stuff in their bedrooms that you don't approve of?

Republicans: We need to ban this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I think they have children on their minds too damn often. I have five kids, and I don't think about kids as much as they do!

Normally my mood and vernacular would call for liberal use of the word "fucking", but wherever I might naturally put it in that comment, it would be too on the fucking nose.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

Q: Why are conservatives obsessed with children and calling other groups, like cross-dressers, pedophiles?

A: For the purposes of lmisdirection and obfuscation - conservatives are the pedophiles. Why else would they want to burrow into strange children’s lives, if not to abuse them?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Now, I'm not saying that these people should be kicked in the nads. I'm just saying, what's the argument for not kicking them in the nads?

[–] GenXLiberal 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Well there’s nothing in the constitution that says we cannot kick them in the nads.

For the SCOTUS textualists: there is a rich history and tradition if kicking a*holes in the nads going back before this country was founded.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Constitutional originadism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Ahh yes, the classic Air Bud constitutionalist

[–] Maggoty 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The cops are on their side.

[–] RubberElectrons 2 points 5 months ago

I'd like for them to also get a quick, sharp kick to the nads. Just make sure to explain why they're being punished during or immediately after, otherwise the training isn't effective.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Then we also kick the cops in the nads.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

IDK why they still haven’t made a LGBTQ+ amendment to the constitution so that attempts like this are shot down immediately.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 7 points 5 months ago

That would mean staking a firm position, rather than blowing wherever the current wind takes them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that the 1st amendment?

[–] stoned_ape 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

1st, 8th, 9th, 10th, 14th, probably, but the people that are on the wrong side of trans rights only give a fuck about the 2nd or something

[–] AngryCommieKender 2 points 5 months ago

4th as well.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

This isn't good news, it's TERRIFYING!

To try this in California shows just how confident they are in their goal; and they're not wrong. Bills designed to deliberately and cruelly harm trans youth are getting written into law all over the world. They're winning more than they're losing.

This isn't the time to celebrate, it is the time to ATTACK the bigots. Utterly destroy their means of harming vulnerable people. Make their hatred illegal, call out every single anti-LGBTQ2+ bigot who has been convicted of a crime. Scream their hypocrisy from the rooftops. Organize. Protest. Fight. Win. And then fight again, because that is sure as hell what they're doing.

[–] xc2215x 5 points 5 months ago

Glad they failed to do so.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Off comes the mask AGAIN

[–] son_named_bort 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They tried their best and failed miserably. The lesson here is never try.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Wrong. Wrong wrong WRONG!

Theu didn't fail! Getting on the ballot would have been nice for them, but it was a long shot and absolutely not going to pass.

This is just a shot across the bow - a first step towards socializing these changes in one of the most opposed states. They'll keep at it for a few years and get on the ballot but fail. Then they'll do it again and again, and gain traction at every step.

They're 'failing forward,' relentlessly marching forward, and laughing when people cheer over a small (deliberate) stumble.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Well, good

[–] tacosplease 1 points 5 months ago

I wonder if hackers could find and distribute porn consumption details for the politicians pushing shit like this?