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If TikTok disappears, I will miss the algorithm.TikTok gives me the right amounts of all of the things I'm interested in. I don't have the same experience elsewhere. Do you?

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[–] new_guy 41 points 7 months ago

Nope. I don't like the format.

A 30 seconds video is like repeating the same mistakes that turned Twitter (yes, even before Elon Musk) to what it is today: a place that there's no shade of gray, no nuance and everything is outrageous. A Short has no time to elaborate on anything and can simplify the subject so much that it becomes just misinformation.

Also I don't believe it's worth for creators in the long run. I'm not a creator myself but I believe that the time-effort to create a video is not linear with its duration. They can make a short so elaborated and viral that it would be more worth to create a full video in regards of sponsorship, ad revenue and subscription retention.

[–] alyth 27 points 7 months ago

The shorts format died for me the day Vine went down

[–] njordomir 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I would like to avoid shorts entirely. If I never have to hear that ear grating robot voice ever again I will celebrate like you wouldn't believe. Also, hearing everything 2 times because a video is designed to loop unnoticed is causing my blood to boil with unmatched hatred. Also, stop up-talking every time you speak you brainless degenerates. >:-( (not any of you here on Lemmy, ya'll are cool)

If this stuff could stop polluting our ears and our eyes, I would love that.

Having said that, I think they're banning it because of all the people talking shit about them on there. I can't imagine an American politician doing a good thing for good reasons.

Consequently, I find myself in the position of being a pro-TikTok TikTok hater.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Right there with you; I despise the app but am against banning it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

It should tell you a lot about what the app is actually for if bytedance is going to completely remove it from the market rather than sell it off to allow it to keep running …

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't use TikTok or Instagram and I block shorts on YouTube. The average lenght of the videos I watch is somewhere between 10 to 20 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can you block shorts in the settings?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

You need an addon for that. YouTube lets you block shorts for 30 days at a time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That's one of the weirdest features i have ever seen. I know that they just want to push that shit, but no option to just remove it is so dumb. Look at this garbage feature, maybe you love it next month

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Where is that setting? I can’t find it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

YouTube Enhancer is one option but there are ones that are made just to remove shorts too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I use a custom filters for uBlock Origin:

www.youtube.com##:matches-path(/)a#thumbnail[href*="/shorts"]:upward(7)

www.youtube.com##:matches-path(/)a#endpoint[title*="Shorts"]

Might need some adjusting depending on OS and browser (I use this for chrome on mac.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Thanks.

I was more interested in the way the other person said.

They said you can do it in the YT app for 30 days at a time. I can’t find it though. I’m limited as I’m on iOS.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't use tiktok, and I use revanced (patched youtube client) partially to hide all of the shorts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

YouTube/internet without an adblocker feels like someone draining your life.

And I think they have made a major change to the algorithm, it now suggests mainly on the last few videos, from the same creator.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I am using the official YouTube app and there is a button to disable shorts.

[–] edgemaster72 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Never been into that format regardless of the website/app/service

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Good for you, it makes one attention span short as a little kid, ... I hate it when my friends get their phone out while we're outside and start doom scrolling ( switching ) shorts on YT/Tiktok... whatever...

At first I was patient about it, but now as soon as they switch to the second short I tell them to hide their phones, it's so @#&@% rude..😤

[–] qevlarr 10 points 7 months ago

I hate it because I watch it but don't enjoy it at all. It just wastes my time. It's addictive but not in the good way like a video game that draws you in, but in the "help I can't control myself" kind of way. FUCK THE ALGORITHM

[–] RightHandOfIkaros 10 points 7 months ago

I prefer video to not be filmed in portrait, so no, I don't find any platform with them appealing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I dont use any of them

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They can eat my shorts.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I really despise the short form content format, but YouTube does a good job of recommending long form content that I'll enjoy

[–] fubo 7 points 7 months ago

They should take down their shorts.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I use YouTube shorts but it mostly shows me garbage I don't want to watch, sprinkled with videos from channels I already subscribe to. For a company so hungry for my data, Google sure is terrible at recommending relevant videos to me.

[–] MissJinx 5 points 7 months ago

I don't have social media but I can't get rid of YT coz I use it for work sometimes. Shorts are good if I want to see something practical like a crochet tutorial with all the chat before.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I'd like to share my perspective as a professional performer, since we're essentially forced to use Instagram. Specifically, we have to go where the general public goes.

At best, we tolerate Instagram but in reality most of us absolutely HATE it and die inside using it. Instagram imposes the ethics of a celibate Amish priest on performers- especially queer performers and performers of color since we're more likely to get reported. It's entirely EXPECTED to get censored heavily or shut down for innocuous bullshit. Most performers are on their second, third, or fourth accounts.

I've had videos flagged as sexual activity because I said the word "breasts" while dressed in street clothes. Pasties may as well be full frontal. Hell, my bio is currently flagged as inappropriate.

Fuck Instagram.

On a personal note, IG thinks I'm obsessed with popping and maggot extraction videos (I'm not, they're disgusting). My suggestions are entirely influencers I don't care about and gross shit. IG is also actively censoring any criticism of Israel.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

TikTok is actively censoring any criticism of the CCP - a much larger global actor who is currently erasing the Uighur and Tibetan cultures.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I've heard YouTubers say they aren't making as much from their regular videos and that YouTube is pushing shorts. So the Youtubers have started to focus on shorts. I don't like short so I don't watch them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I hate shorts and never used TikTok. I resisted on YouTube for so long, but they just worse what you see and you’ll click them eventually.

I’ve noticed I’m scrolling them more and more and I don’t like that they’re able to do this to our brains. Particularly those of us with things like ADHD.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

YouTube Shorts are ok, but YouTube knows what I like.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I don’t use TikTok but would say no, their algorithm is poor at predicting what I like. But I have little interest in short videos like that. Most things worth saying take some time to explain.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

They're both bad :/

We would still be able to access TikTok.com

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Too addicting, I try to stay away.

The only good shorts I've seen are from NileRed and Vsauce.

[–] Noodle07 1 points 7 months ago

I want to read content, not watch it, and I want it to be silent so no thanks

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

YouTube Shorts have been pretty good at recommending content from games i play (Street Fighter 6) or from martial arts/Boxing/MMA accounts that i am actually interested in

30 seconds is short enough for an SF6 round or a cool KO

With that said, you've asked this in the wrong place and are gonna get the most curmudgeonly answers from people who dislike videos, let alone shorts

[–] paf0 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Haha, you're right on that last bit. A bit of random curiosity on my part and it might have been the wrong place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It's like asking "how much RGB is the right amount for a PC" or "Do you prefer Windows or Linux?"

The crowd here is almost self selecting to be the kinds of people to answer those questions in a near uniform way.

"When in Rome..." i guess

[–] Garyx23x -1 points 7 months ago

Yep not even close anywhere else. Plus I don’t like google/meta as it is so it’s all frustrating :/