Ah shit, here we go again
this post was submitted on 26 Apr 2024
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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It's like a rerun of that old show Cops, except shittier.
Hell yeah, here we go again.
Bring guns this time.
At one point the officer jokes: “I’ve always wanted to be in a bar fight. I don’t know if this counts.”
A few things to unpack, right there
at this point its ritual human sacrifice by police officers.
But what if one time they are lying about not being able to breathe and we let them up for a second and then it turns out they really could breathe but just lied.... what about the horrible ramifications of that... we wouldn't want them to have had a single moment of slight relief if it turns out they were just lying right?
Probably better to just find out when they either die or not... who would be able to forgive us if we gave them a slight break and took their word for it that they were about to die.
Gave him several doses of Narcan when he obviously had a heart attack, what idiots.
Ohio really going for it recently.
Ohioian here
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I know exactly what the response was.
"If YoU cAn SaY tHaT tHeN yOu CaN bReAtHe"
The video is in the article. The response was "you're fine" and a pat on the back. Can't make that shit up.
I was close, but ultimately wrong.
Yeah, solid 8/10 guess.
Good advice for a choking person. Performing the abdominal thrust on someone who could talk has the potential to get the obstruction stuck further and completely blocking their airway.
Not good advice for someone possibly panicking that you are actively smothering.
It's almost like the militarized police force is tortured in a controlled setting as part of their training, so they torture citizens... who aren't trained for torture and are not in a controlled setting.
Didn't learn shit from George Floyd I guess
