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The former president is telling Republicans he "doesn't want Biden to have a victory" in 2024, said a source familiar with the bipartisan negotiations.

Donald Trump on Wednesday privately pressured Senate Republicans to “kill” a bipartisan deal to secure the U.S. border because he doesn’t want President Joe Biden to chalk up a win ahead of the 2024 presidential election, according to a source familiar with the tenuous negotiations on the package.

Trump directly reached out to several GOP senators on Wednesday to tell them to reject any deal, said this source, who requested anonymity to speak freely. The GOP presidential frontrunner also personally reached out to some Senate Republicans over the weekend, the source told HuffPost.

“Trump wants them to kill it because he doesn’t want Biden to have a victory,” said the source. “He told them he will fix the border when he is president… He said he only wants the perfect deal.”

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

No surprise there. Senate Republicans want another delay in a Democrat win to fuck over America. Remember how Iran delayed releasing hostages so Reagan could use it against Carter?

[–] [email protected] 74 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That wasn't even the first time. Nixon tried to sabotage Vietnamese peace talks in 1968 to hurt LBJ. It worked then too, the only thing that matters when you want power is winning.

[–] eran_morad 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The last halfway decent repub was Eisenhower.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

And Ike was apolitical. He joined the Republicans because he felt the Democrats were too strong and he wanted levity between the two.

For fun look up his presidential platform to see how...progressive... Republicans used to be and how far theyve fallen.

Shit you don't even have to go that far back, Reagan, their neo-liberal god, would be lampooned in today's GOP. He passed gun-control and gave amnesty to those here illegally - both of which we should do again. He also ignored a pandemic resulting in millions of unnecessary deaths, just like our last Republican president, you know the one who stole Reagans motto, Make America Great Again. Yea Reagan did that first, that was his schtick and they both fucking failed HARD at that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

AKA Kissinger's job interview.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Someone should check on Kissinger and make sure they're still dead. Don't want to risk that Kissinger is a lich. While you are at, take a shit on Kissinger grave for us.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] 800XL 6 points 10 months ago

Hang 'em high

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, not just America. Remember that part of the border deal crap involves Republicans agreeing to fund military aid to Ukraine. Ukraine is defending themselves from Russia. Putin runs Russia. Trump really likes Putin, far more than any normal person would.

Trump is a fucking traitor.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Also, there's a non-zero chance we'll get dragged into a war with Russia if Putin attacks a NATO country after Ukraine. Senators know that if we don't fund Ukraine now, it will be much worse for everyone later, and potentially having Trump at the helm during that time would be an unmitigated disaster.

[–] ghostdoggtv 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honestly if Trump gets back into office I'm joining the legion.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just can't really see Russia invading a NATO country. I mean, they would be either completely destroyed relatively quickly, or we're talking WW3 and a couple thousand years of rebuilding.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Then again, a dying man has nothing to lose. Who knows if the rumors of him having cancer are true, but he's certainly no spring chicken, at any rate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are more than a few articles about how people had to sandbag things to stop him from trying to unilaterally withdraw from NATO.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 7 points 10 months ago

We really should start treating such things as the treason it is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

^^ This comment wins.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I know Repubs don't actually want a functioning government, but JFC, when half the govt actively, publicly and LOUDLY works against it, it's no surprise it's so fucked up.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What I think we should all be very concerned about is if they erode institutions, regulations, and the rule of law then they really can go ape (literally) enforcing their insecurities. Forcing women to stay in abusive or unwanted marriages, abortion and birth control restrictions, removing reading material, protecting "different" people from violence? It all goes out the window if they get their way.

[–] BigWheelPowerBrakeSlider 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If? It's already in progress.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think this is a half truth given events in Texas. They don't want a functional government unless they control it and it represents their interests. They being the few party elites.

[–] RegalPotoo 18 points 10 months ago

But that's the thing - they already hold an incredible amount of power and influence to control how things are run to protect their interests. Abbot is throwing a fit because the federal government stopped him murdering people he doesn't like. It's not enough to have power to secure their own position, they also want the power to reduce the position of people they see as inferior

[–] ghostdoggtv 51 points 10 months ago

This is what happens when traitors escape consequences.

[–] Fedizen 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nixon and Reagan both sabotaged deals to get elected. Now we're seeing it play out as an even stupider farce.

[–] Decoy321 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know about Reagan's "October Surprise" deal, but I'm unfamiliar with Nixon's. Would you please tell me what to look into?

[–] Fedizen 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

He undermined a vietnam war ceasefire negotiation if I recall.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah, and that was why the Watergate break-in happened. He was worried that the opposition knew about it

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[–] cowfodder 49 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Straight out of the Nixon playbook.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

In all but the particulars this is the Nixon/Humphrey election.

Swap out Vietnam for border

Swap out the eve of the election for a year before the election

Swap out an evil pseudo-intellectual for an evil fucking idiot

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I fucking hate Trump so much dude

[–] youngGoku 5 points 10 months ago

Same. I can't even watch home alone anymore. Literally hate that movie now, he ruined it.

[–] IMongoose 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

GOP congressmen were literally complaining about not having any accomplishments to show during this term, and their strategy is to keep doing nothing? Awesome plan dudes, keep it up.

[–] dragonflyteaparty 8 points 10 months ago

What would they have to complain about if they fixed the stuff they complain about?

[–] HollandJim 32 points 10 months ago

Next, he’ll try running guns for hostages to defeat the Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So 5-10 years ago, this would be political suicide and the rhetoric was never this violent and polarized.

I worry where we will be in the next 5-10 years if this trend continues.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We're going to be fighting Fascism at least until Trump is too old or senile to keep going. He has a death grip on the party, but at least nobody else thus far can take up his mantle.

[–] Zehzin 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The bitch of fascism is always in heat. When he croaks it his supporters won't suddenly turn into rational people, another piece of shit will pick up the torch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

They'll certainly try, but the movement won't be the same. They want Trump, not somebody else.

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[–] AllonzeeLV 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Reagan would be so fucking proud.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_October_Surprise_theory#:~:text=The%201980%20October%20Surprise%20theory,President%20Jimmy%20Carter%2C%20the%20incumbent (This is how any hope for the United States as a society and not an exploitation farm died)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Holy shit what a child. This is literally what children do.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Reach a compromise solution that helps the situation and the public at large. 😤

Say fuck it all, it's all about me and my run for President. 😉

[–] jordanlund 13 points 10 months ago

Here I was all ready to pull up my old man pants and go "Like Reagan?" with links to the October Surprise bullshit and y'all beat me to it.

Y'all make me proud today!

(ties onion to belt)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

So if Texas is really being invaded, this is treason? Your move, Abbot.

[–] eran_morad 11 points 10 months ago

The republican traitor filth must be crushed.

[–] ME5SENGER_24 9 points 10 months ago

Pulling more shit out of the Reagan handbook.

[–] Rapidcreek 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then Democrats will get to say they made huge concessions on parole and asylum during these talks, and Trump tanked it. That’s a much better space politically than they were in just before these Senate talks began. But, it doesn't matter since the voters will be set early and won't remember that Trump owns the problem.

[–] dragonflyteaparty 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You're right, they won't remember. People have already forgotten how much Republicans refuse every single thing Biden has tried to do and act like Biden didn't even try at all. These people also ignore what he didn't accomplish and down vote me when I bring it up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Way to really care about the country Donnie. Reeeeeaaallly great.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest 3 points 10 months ago

He sure looks odd

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