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[–] [email protected] 100 points 5 months ago (9 children)

It's so strange how the press covers Nikki Haley like she actually matters.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m so glad young people no longer watch cable news. I hope it continues

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I'm not sure that getting your "news" from random TikToks is any better...

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[–] RGB3x3 42 points 5 months ago (3 children)

If Trump is unable to be president because of Court cases that should rule that way (will they? Flip a coin...), then Haley has a pretty good chance of beating DeSantis. So yeah, she does matter.

I'd rather her over the others because she's not so MAGA and far-right.

I'll be voting for Biden either way.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

She is easy on the eyes and can generally make coherent points. That makes her a very small minority within the GOP.

[–] ikidd 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"The Civil War was about state rights."

Coherent.

Pick one.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 9 points 5 months ago

You understand what she is trying to communicate, it's s shitty hateful lying message but you understand it. Compare it to the rambling insanity we have all had to deal with since 2016.

By the way to be clear I am not going to vote for her.

[–] qooqie 9 points 5 months ago

She’s been backed by a few mega donors who are able to push media coverage if I recall correctly

[–] TropicalDingdong 8 points 5 months ago

24 hours a day of drama to fill. Gotta cover something

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[–] xc2215x 79 points 5 months ago

He most certainly is not.

[–] FlashMobOfOne 64 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

330 million people in the US and both parties are going to run a candidate who should, by rights, be considered medically unfit for office.

I hate it here.

[–] givesomefucks 68 points 5 months ago (2 children)

“The President in particular is very much a figurehead — he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it. On those criteria Zaphod Beeblebrox is one of the most successful Presidents the Galaxy has ever had — he has already spent two of his ten presidential years in prison for fraud.”

― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy

One of my favorite books, but depressing people were pointing shit out 50 years ago and society at large is still ignoring it today.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (5 children)

It's obvious from this excerpt that Adams was mostly talking about British Prime Ministers, who are elected by the government and do not wield much (if any) power beyond that of being a figurehead. Of perhaps the Royalty, who aren't elected but hold even less power and are even more of a distraction.

The US president, by contrast, is not elected by the government and has a shit-ton of power, and increasingly so as the US congress is less and less able to govern due to Republican infighting. The US president can start and win a foreign war in less time than it takes congress to even form an opinion on the matter.

Zaphod spent two years in prison for fraud, meanwhile the US president is protected by more military firepower than literal nukes and has a chain of succession longer than most Kings because the US government literally cannot function without a President.

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[–] dhork 53 points 5 months ago (20 children)

Do you have any proof at all that Biden is mentally unfit, or are you just repeating what TikTok says?

All I see is that he's old, his stutter has gotten worse, and he tripped over a sandbag once.

[–] givesomefucks 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

his stutter has gotten worse,

He was a favorite in the 1988 presidential primary because he was such a a great public speaker...

He got over his stutter when he was a child, and a stutter doesn't make someone say something completely different than what they meant to. Hell, he wasn't even doing it while Obama's VP, and he was in his 70s then.

Stop pretending he just has a stutter, he's 80 years old and he gets confused sometimes. It'll happen to all of us if we're lucky to live that long.

That doesn't mean he's still fit to be presidet, and he sure as shit isn't the best option for a Dem candidate even if he is mentally fit for office.

[–] dhork 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

He was a favorite in the 1988 presidential primary because he was such a a great public speaker

Were you alive back then? As I remember it, he was a perennial also-ran because he couldn't help but stay stupid shit now and then. It's as if the word "Gaffe" in politics was invented to describe stupid things Joe Biden said. And saying stuff like that stopped campaigns cold back then. (remember when Howard Dean's campaign got killed over screaming the wrong way?)

But then Trump happened, and all of a sudden saying stupid shit all the time was no longer a liability.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Whatever, really. She's probably 6-8 weeks from turning around and endorsing him anyway.

[–] FenrirIII 18 points 5 months ago (4 children)

She'll bend the knee like the rest.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (5 children)

A mental aptitude test for all politicians is a great idea actually

[–] FireTower 80 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

This could be weaponized as a tool of discrimination to keep minority groups or the impoverished out of office by constructing purposefully confusing questions. Just like the Jim Crow Era laws requiring people pass literacy tests to vote.

[–] CosmicTurtle 30 points 5 months ago

This.

It has to be something really really unassailable. Age would be a good starter.

Requiring candidates to release their IRS records in order to appear on the ballot is another close second.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I get the problem, but I don't think it's really applicable. Voting is a basic right of every citizen of the country. Presidency is not for everyone. You wouldn't want a translator who doesn't know the languages they're supposed to translate? Why would you accept a president who is, let's say mentally challenged?

I could understand objecting to specifics, like why should mental aptitude get tested, but I don't understand being against the whole idea. IMO presidency is like a job and like most jobs there are specific requirements that a person needs to meet to be fit for that job. I don't think it's unreasonable to have certain expectations of people who are running for president.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

I mean... Trump did take a mental fitness test, and failed so miserably he genuinely thought he had passed it. Person-woman-man-camera-tv, anyone? And that was years ago, he's certainly lost even more of his faculties since then.

[–] DigitalFrank 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Toss in drug testing and annual financial audits as well.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

There's basically 3 rules to be president:

  • Born in the US
  • Over the age of 35
  • Never lead an intersection against the United States

If Trump can't be barred from running for his role in Jan 6, there's no way adding more requirements will somehow fix things.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Trump hasn't been mentally fit since prior to the end of the apprentice

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago

Narrator: of course he’s not fit.

But neither are his voters, who would rather burn the world down out of hatred and spite than accept defeat.

[–] nbafantest 36 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Haley needed to be saying this stuff 2 years ago.

She's clearly just a spineless flip flopping politician.

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[–] eran_morad 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

All republicans are mentally defective.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

Why is that even a question in 2024

[–] recapitated 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Haley waited too long to go in for the kill, and that just shows she isn't the right material. She's going to pander to Trump's base who believe his obvious lies. They will vote for Trump. These clowns don't have the first idea about strategy or commanding power or assessing the electorate.

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[–] Daft_ish 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No. The answer is no.

Go gloves off you pussy bitch Nikki Haley. You think your orange idol would hold back?

[–] Mostly_Harmless 10 points 5 months ago

Questions it? The answer to that question has been thoroughly documented.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

What is with america and demented old fools as presidents? You guys have some kinda fetish or what

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