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[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (5 children)

A mental aptitude test for all politicians is a great idea actually

[–] FireTower 80 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

This could be weaponized as a tool of discrimination to keep minority groups or the impoverished out of office by constructing purposefully confusing questions. Just like the Jim Crow Era laws requiring people pass literacy tests to vote.

[–] CosmicTurtle 30 points 5 months ago

This.

It has to be something really really unassailable. Age would be a good starter.

Requiring candidates to release their IRS records in order to appear on the ballot is another close second.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I get the problem, but I don't think it's really applicable. Voting is a basic right of every citizen of the country. Presidency is not for everyone. You wouldn't want a translator who doesn't know the languages they're supposed to translate? Why would you accept a president who is, let's say mentally challenged?

I could understand objecting to specifics, like why should mental aptitude get tested, but I don't understand being against the whole idea. IMO presidency is like a job and like most jobs there are specific requirements that a person needs to meet to be fit for that job. I don't think it's unreasonable to have certain expectations of people who are running for president.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

It’s a good idea but completely meaningless because the “tests” will be biased and run by sycophants on both sides.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Think about it this way. Many LGBTQ+ identites have been considered to make people "mentally unwell" (even to this day, the way stuff like being trans or asexual is talked about is.... >.<). Or what about, say an autistic person who may do exceptionally well in one part of the test but fail some other parts (or even be unable to complete them).

This isn't even starting on the issues of socioeconomic and cultural biases (which have been discussed elsewhere in depth).

The problem is "mental competency" is a pretty damn flexible concept and one that is frequently weaponised en-masse against various groups of people to strip away agency >.<, as it is often based on ideas which have primarily been from very specific perspectives, which can be malicious (see disenfranchisment of black people), or dehumanisation (see the fact that the Double Empathy Problem associated with autistic people was only really acknowledged in the past 10 years when they actually considered how their behaviour could appear from autistic people's perspective, and only really because autistic autism researchers got some publishing and papers <.<), or simple incompetence, or any combination.

There's many more examples of this, that I haven't even started covering. The fact is that any "mental competency" requirement for a public office implies some kind of testing and barring process, which is ripe with all the flaws listed many times :p

[–] ook_the_librarian 1 points 5 months ago

Wow. I never thought about this. I doubt there will be a time anytime soon where I'd be ok voting for a president who isn't fluent in english. I'd almost be ok with a grammar test including diagramming sentences from the Constitution.

But since I'm a liberal I'd accept the test also being done in a relevant First Nation's language.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Just publicize the questions results, judges/proctors, etc.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

I mean... Trump did take a mental fitness test, and failed so miserably he genuinely thought he had passed it. Person-woman-man-camera-tv, anyone? And that was years ago, he's certainly lost even more of his faculties since then.

[–] DigitalFrank 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Toss in drug testing and annual financial audits as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

And monthly tests if they test positive for drugs, daily if they within the last two terms have voted to criminalise that drug.

And toss in a breathalyser test for everyone before entering to vote.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 1 points 5 months ago

Alcohol would be something. Nixon was a raging alcoholic and look at the damage he did

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

There's basically 3 rules to be president:

  • Born in the US
  • Over the age of 35
  • Never lead an intersection against the United States

If Trump can't be barred from running for his role in Jan 6, there's no way adding more requirements will somehow fix things.

[–] Mamertine 7 points 5 months ago

Man, woman, person, camera, TV

The doctors were so impressed with how well I did on that intelligent test.

Fwiw, he passed a cognitive stroke exam 4 years ago.