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[–] [email protected] 106 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Opera back in 2000s.

Compressing webpages, built in mail, built in BitTorrent client, tab stacking, "fit to width" which would remove horizontal scrollbars, page tiling, mouse gestures, rocker gestures, I think it even had a calendar.

It's a shame the direction Opera took after Jon left, but thankfully he started Vivaldi which feels like the spiritual successor.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Opera also invented the browser Speed Dial, which was super handy back in the day.

But most importantly, Opera invented tabs, or at least the concept of tabbed browsing. I recall using Opera on Windows 3.11 and for the longest time, even during the Win 9x era, no other app used tabs.

In addition to mouse gestures, they had customisable keyboard shortcuts for practically every browser feature, again, something which very few apps bothered with.

The page compression built into Opera Mini was a life saver on Symbian and Windows Mobile devices back in the 2G/GPRS era. Opera Mini loaded pages blindingly quick and there was nothing else like it on the market, even leading up to early Android days.

but thankfully he started Vivaldi which feels like the spiritual successor.

Too bad he made the unfortunate decision of going with the Chromium engine instead of Gecko, or even making their own engine. I would've loved to use Vivalidi if it weren't for that fact.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Opera didn't actually invent browser tabs. That's a common misconception.

Tabs was first invented for the browser InternetWorks

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

Opera also invented full page zooming. Originally, browser zoom would only increase text size - everything else (including images, the actual page layout, etc) would remain the same size. Opera was the first browser to instead zoom into the entire page.

It also had a lot of features that either require extensions or don't even exist these days. Things like being able to disable JavaScript or change the User-agent per-site, basic content blocking before ad blockers existed (like modern-day ad blockers but you'd manually build your own list of things to block by going into content blocking mode and clicking on them), an option to only show cached images (useful on slow dial up connections), a fully customizable UI (literally every toolbar, button, and status bar segment could be moved around), and many more.

It was truly a web browser for the future, far far ahead of its time. I miss those days.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 11 months ago (3 children)

VLC, when codec were thé worst.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

Absolutely VLC, VLC was excellent at what it does before codec issues were even that widespread.

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[–] BeefPiano 72 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

NextStep - eventually became Mac OS X (that’s why all sorts of system calls start with NS)

BeOS. Playing 4 video streams at the same time in 1995 was mind blowing.

OS/2 was WINE before WINE

SixDegrees was a social network before Friendster

Prodigy was an online service (and ISP later) owned by Sears, which had a significant mail-order business. It could have been Amazon.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I used to work at Sears, and I could never figure out how a company that found its initial success in a catalog business didn’t immediately see the opportunities the internet presented. Now Sears is all but gone, and Bezos gets to go to space with Shatner :(

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Man, I remember seeing that BeOS demonstration that had a spinning cube with a different video playing on each face, and being absolutely dumbfounded. Thanks for reminding me of that.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

*NeXTSTEP. And the NS object calls are part of the Objective-C programming language it was built with.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The fact he called the language HolyC is brilliant. He might be crazy, but that doesn't mean he isn't a genius.

[–] Chobbes 12 points 11 months ago

Unfortunately your statements should be past tense :(. They died kind of tragically.

[–] sanguinepar 18 points 11 months ago

Wow, that was a wild ride of a story. Very sad though.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Do websites count? Vine fizzled out but it would have been a huge success with today's TikTok crowd.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It had today's tiktok crowd. It was a huge hit. The only reason it failed is because of monetisation.

Only reason YouTube is popular. No competitor can match it in those terms.

Saying Vine was ahead of its time is like saying Digg or MySpace was ahead of its time. No it was at the precipice and just horribly failed to manage its growth and responding to competitors

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

UNIX systems in the 1960s. They are still in use to this day and modified ones run our phones, Steam Decks and space craft!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is a matter of interpretation, I'll wager, but to me, "before its time" implies something that came about too early, before the world was ready for it. I'd argue that Unix was of its time, since it was the operating system that went on to widespread success. That is to say, I think that it's Multics that was before its time. It was derided at the time for being too large and complex (2MB of memory—outrageous!!), and the creators of Unix were Multics programmers who borrowed many of its concepts to make a smaller, less resource-intensive OS that ran better on the computers of the day.

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[–] krasny 45 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Imho NAPSTER. Crazy days of sharing mp3's files.

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[–] vvvvv 44 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Excel enabled non-programmers to create basically any app as long as they are fine with a cell-based UI. Same with Access and CRUD apps. I know people love to dunk on M$ here, and for good reasons too, but these two programs are probably responsible for a decent chunk or PoC/v1 projects worldwide.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

All of it, because apparently humans were wholly unprepared for using computer technology responsibly.

[–] Repelle 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Postgres, Postgres has always been extremely ahead of the curve... Even when it was Ingres.

[–] Phegan 28 points 11 months ago (6 children)
[–] kenbw2 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think its downfall was being a closed beta, which made it useless for communicating with other people who weren't already invited

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[–] MIDItheKID 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Real Player.

Nobody had enough bandwidth to actually stream anything. I guess some people had IDSN, and maybe even fewer cable internet, but the majority of the world was still on dial up. You can't stream video on dial up.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

Alter Ego, a 1986 life-simulator in which you start as a baby and play through an entire life, choose-your-own-adventure style.

[–] Mango 22 points 11 months ago (4 children)

DLNA protocol.

Seriously, how has it been passed up by all the worst little steaming gimmicks?

[–] Chobbes 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, I’m probably super ignorant and in need of a lesson… Every piece of DLNA software I’ve ever messed with sucked and was a massive security and privacy issue? I haven’t looked at it much, but it didn’t seem worth it? Is it good? What’s good about it?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

Google glasses, I think it's death was mainly because it looks nerdy aside of course the huge privacy concerns. Which honestly don't exist now. Look at twitch streamers streaming everywhere. People installing cameras at their home and connected to the net for the world to see. Now we are going hard with VR/AR even Apple has a product for it.

[–] blazeknave 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The concerns exist and are bigger than ever. Ask c/privacy about it. You're referencing the fractional percentage of people who elect to be streamers. Irrelevant to the general population.

A decade ago, one of my local dives, never seen a fight break out there.. dude attacked a woman over them. You don't think people are more poor and angry and traumatized now?

https://www.eater.com/2014/2/25/6273629/woman-attacked-for-wearing-google-glass-at-a-bar-in-sf

I'd never hit a woman or condone violence like this. And, fuck invasive undercover surveillance cameras. This technology can stay in a fuckin dumpster.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Fwiw, citing c/privacy on Lemmy is very, very much also referencing a fractional percentage of society.

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[–] Crack0n7uesday 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Quake 3, modern first person shooters are still based on that game.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

The Source game engine was completely unmatched in its time.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

GEOS on the C64 (and possibly others)? A desktop environment before machines really had the power to pull it off decently.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Battlefield heroes. Somehow it couldn’t pay the bills while that style of game is insanely popular now.

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[–] Xaphanos 13 points 11 months ago
[–] Num10ck 12 points 11 months ago

for those chatbot lovers, respect to the one from 1966 : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Kai's Power Tools in 1992 . The interface was so next level it felt out of place and the more you used it features would get unlocked and more advanced. https://winworldpc.com/product/kais-power-tools/20

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Dr Sbaitso early TTS and kinda-AI psychologist, with his cantankerous, all-caps responses.

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[–] TheControlled 10 points 11 months ago

Photoshop. Kinda obvious now but at the time it was as revolutionary as it is mundane now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hardware and software combo… video toaster from Newtech
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Toaster

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

If games count, Black and White. I think that game is peak VR material just happened way before VR and now the IP is dead afaik

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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