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‘Enshittification’ is coming for absolutely everything (www.ft.com)

submitted 9 months ago by L4s to c/technology

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‘Enshittification’ is coming for absolutely everything::The term describes the slow decay of online platforms such as Facebook. But what if we’ve entered the ‘enshittocene’?

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[–] linearchaos 293 points 9 months ago (9 children)

A link to an article about enshittification that's just a solid paywall....

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[–] AlmightySnoo 146 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This would be a meme by itself:

[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

SIXTY NINE EUROS PER MONTH HOLY FUCK

EDIT SEVENTY FLIPPIN FIVE USD

[–] rambaroo 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Financial times has always been always expensive AF because it's made for rich investors.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

FT is for suckers. Barron's is the better news source.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Only 420 euros if you sign up for a whole year

[–] [email protected] 65 points 9 months ago (3 children)

And not just any paywall, a NINETY-NINE CANADIAN DOLLARS PER MONTH ONE. Granted the first month is a single dollar, but still, that's a grand total of C$1090 A YEAR.

[–] RGB3x3 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, it's $75 USD a month. Who the fuck do they think they are charging that much? I get 1Gbps internet for less than that. That's 2 weeks worth of groceries. That's YouTube Premium, Disney+, Netflix, and Max combined.

Absolutely no way an online news outlet is providing even close to a quarter of that $75 in value.

[–] pivot_root 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That's 2 weeks worth of groceries.

I would be lucky to get a week off of that. If all I ate was instant ramen and stovetop pasta for every single meal, I might be able to stretch it to two weeks.

Absolutely no way an online news outlet is providing even close to a quarter of that $75 in value.

The outlet is called Financial Times, and—if you think about it—they certainly do an excellent job in helping individuals manage their finances correctly. After seeing a $75 charge on my bank statement from a news outlet, I would never forget to cancel another promotional subscription again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You can get a lot of rice and beans for 75 dollars. Definitely sounds like a rough couple weeks tho

[–] Womble 6 points 9 months ago

its the Financial Times, they know exactly who they are charging that much, and those people will spend that about of money without even noticing its gone.

[–] gibmiser 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Whatthefuck

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Old people pay the $1 because of course, then forget.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I make it $100 Canadian per month, plus tax. It's not intended for us lowly poors.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

https://archive.is/1O12l

[–] Garbanzo 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Still can't read the content without pop-up ads. Hella enshitified.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Do you not have an ad blocker?

Bruh uBlock origin is the way

[–] Garbanzo 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not on my phone, and it's pretty shitty to need add-ons just to make content readable, so whatever

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Firefox+ublock origin for android, for iPhone I have no clue

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

iOS: Wipr takes care of everything. Even stuff Firefox Focus and my PiHole doesn’t.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Adguard does a good job on iOS.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m using Firefox focus’ adblocking and a PiHole and I still have three giant ads banners that prevent me from reading on Archive hahaha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've only got uBlock Origin running and I don't see any ads

Something's got to be misconfigured on your end friend

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Firefox focus isn’t as good as ublock origin.

It’s better than nothing.

Wipr took care of all of those banner ads.

[–] LetThereBeR0ck 2 points 9 months ago

Thanks for this, the article was well worth the read

[–] FlyingSquid 19 points 9 months ago

Which does answer the question very succinctly.

[–] AA5B 15 points 9 months ago

Not just a paywall, but a cookie dialog taking up more than my whole phone screen, where you have to click into it to “reject all” (and it doesn’t reject all), just to get to the paywall

[–] Lycerius 7 points 9 months ago

A paywall you find only after you have to manually reject cookies. Done? Okay, here's your paywall!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It was on purpose, now you get the point clearer.

[–] linearchaos 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ohh no, it's a real article, if you have bypasspaywall clean you can read it

I'll give em a little credit, the article is by Cory Doctorow

But then we have this:

"The internet isn’t more important than the climate emergency, gender justice, racial justice, genocide or inequality. But the internet is the terrain we’ll fight those fights on. Without a free, fair and open internet, the fight is lost before it’s joined."

it costs a dollar to read the article.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Or 99CND monthly for this shit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

They mean “free to charge you a dollar” by “free”

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Nothing wrong with paying for content? Enshittification is about something different than just being expensive or bad.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Paying for content: fair enough

Paying almost A THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR for content: barely worth it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That's a value proposition. Explain to me how you would price this for it to be fair? If you don't like it, don't buy it. This has nothing to do with enshitification.

[–] linearchaos 8 points 9 months ago

Here's my response: [just paypal me $5 to see it]

[+] givesomefucks -35 points 9 months ago (3 children)

When your only claim to fame is jamming the word "shit" into other words...

You need to milk all that ad money out of it you can.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

FWIW Cory Doctorow was famous before coining that word. He's done a lot of great work. You should research before saying things.

[+] givesomefucks -37 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So many accomplishments you couldn't even name a single one if you tried!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

he basically was all of EFF europe when i found him mid-2000s. he also worked boingboing for a very long time.

[–] Rolando 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Doctorow

Awards

    2000 John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer[91]
    2004 Locus Award for Best First Novel for Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom
    2004 Sunburst Award for A Place So Foreign and Eight More
    2006 Locus Award for Best Novelette for "I, Robot"
    2007 Locus Award for Best Novelette for "When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth"
    2007 The Electronic Frontier Foundation Pioneer Award[92]

For Little Brother

    2009 John W. Campbell Memorial Award[93]
    2009 Prometheus Award[45]
    2009 Sunburst Award[46]
    2009 White Pine Award[94]
    2018 Inkpot Award[95]

For Pirate Cinema

    2013 Prometheus Award[45]

For Homeland

    2014 Prometheus Award[45]

[+] givesomefucks -32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I saw those on Wikipedia...

Honestly the only impressive bit was an xkcd character is based on him.

Like, you know it's not amount the amount of awards, it's the quality?

Like those Prometheus awards, those are just for libertarians and they have like five winners a year.

[–] dugmeup 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And most people have zero.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So hard to lift a finger to do the work yourself while you're shitposting. Follow your own handle's advice.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Let's skip for a moment the fact that, as other posters highlighted, Cory Doctorow was already famous before coining the word. Let's pretend that his only achievement was indeed the concept of enshittification.

Even then, it's a big fucking deal. He noticed a rather nasty pattern in a system used by 2/3 of the world population, described it, labelled it, identified potential causes and solutions. It wasn't just "lol lmao he jammed the word «shit» into another X-D".

[–] linearchaos 7 points 9 months ago

CD is a beast. One hell of a great guy. I have actually donated money to some of his more worthy causes before.

Ft It's kind of a s*** hole though. And for the paywall to abruptly block you outright not a single word not a hook, which is kind of weird because it's a little bit against what he stands for I know it's not apples to apples...

I read the article. It's kind of disappointing, somewhat of a Nothing Burger.