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Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell bluntly warned Republican senators in a private meeting not to sign on to a bill from Sen. Josh Hawley aimed at limiting corporate money bankrolling high-powered outside groups, telling them that many of them won their seats thanks to the powerful super PAC the Kentucky Republican has long controlled.

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[–] o0joshua0o 129 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's hard to believe a Republican is pushing a piece of non-terrible legislation for a change.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes! I’m confused! Hawley has always been a shithead. What’s changed!!?! I’m not complaining, just curious… and a little suspicious.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's still a shit head, he just probably thinks this will limit corporate money to Dems, plus most of the Republican party takes donations from shady or compromised sources like the NRA, so it doesn't hurt them as much to limit corporate contributions.

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[–] Boddhisatva 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He may actually be dumb enough to believe that such legislation would hurt Democrats more than Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

True believers are always a detriment to a false movement.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

He doesn't, and he won't. It is part of their culture war against woke. It will not end in any legislation, but it will be repeated ad nauseum in the press as if it was actually serious, and his voters will lap it up.

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[–] AllonzeeLV 119 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Imagine being about to die any day now, and still using your failing, literally sputtering life force to proactively stand for enduring corruption even when you're gone and will no longer profit from it, as if the corporations that bribe the Republicans and Neoliberals will be able to send the bribe checks to hell or something.

There aren't many villains, even in fiction, that lack any nuance to this degree. McConnell truly is a palpatine-esque cartoon of malevolence.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He really is one of the most evil humans to ever exist in the USA. PLEASE can he die soon. PLEASE. The earth needs a win.

[–] Witchfire 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm convinced he's a lich and we need to find his philactery first

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Somehow, McConnell returned.

[–] AllonzeeLV 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Jesus, I can just picture the Heritage Foundation fascist thinktank rolling a screen onto the Senate floor that's some janky McConnell LLM Max Headroom looking AI to tell the Senate Republicans what to think.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let them eat their own faces. Corruption of these folks Tammany Hall level is where we are again.

[–] Salamendacious 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did you see that hawley basically wants to over turn Citizens United? That could be major!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He doesn't though. It is all culture war posturing:

“Let’s get one thing straight,” Hawley bellowed this summer, “Corporations are not people.” The crowd, this one gathered in Washington for the social conservative Faith and Freedom Coalition summit, barely stirred. But then they erupted when the populist senator continued, “I’ve got news for these woke corporations: We are not going to surrender this nation to the cultural Marxists in the C-suite.”

[–] themeatbridge 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is typical conservative behavior. The moment the status quo does not benefit themselves, they become stridently progressive on that one issue.

Notice the subtext. Woke corporations and C-suite Marxists. He's opposed to corporations funding his opponents, and he finally got around to doing the math on Citizens United and realized that most corporations aren't run by fundamentalists and bigots.

Money isn't speech, and corporations aren't people. I've always said that. But the only reason Hawley agrees with me now is that the "people" are "saying" they don't want to be associated with fascists and terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But that’s…fine. Because corporationsa aren’t fuckin “woke” either. Corporations help nothing but corporations. Overturning citizens united does not change if their reasons for wanting to overturn it are stupid. These people are stupid. If they want to do the right thing for the stupidest, most incorrect reasons…it’s still getting the right thing done.

[–] themeatbridge 6 points 1 year ago

I agree with you completely. It just seems like a lot of people are confused about being on the same side of an argument as Hawley when they know what a selfish gasbag he is. He hasn't changed in the slightest, and hasn't become a better person or principled in any way. His interests align with the greater good right now, and he'll be useful as long as that's true.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The cultural Marxists in the C-suite

Wtf does that even mean? It's just a nonsensical jumble of buzzwords thrown together. The crowd cheered for that?

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[–] ericisshort 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It pisses me off that I agree with Hawley about anything, but here we are.

[–] Salamendacious 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's always important to remember that people like him aren't evil incarnate they just have radically different worldviews, the majority of which I vehemently disagree with, but there's always some commonality out there somewhere. Cory Booker is working with Hawley on child labor prevention.

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[–] Nobody 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

McConnell's undeath can only be maintained by a constant flow of bribery cash. Nonexistent campaign finance law is where he hides his phylactery.

[–] Salamendacious 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, this needs to be the plot of an urban fantasy political thriller immediately. That's amazing!

[–] EmpathicVagrant 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He transforms into his original form of a tortoise and eats the donation cash as though it were lettuce.

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[–] dynamojoe 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's the catch? What is Hawley's new source of funds that he has and the Establishment GOP doesn't have? There's no way in hell that seditious pigfucker would cut off the money supply unless he's got a private source.

[–] Makeitstop 23 points 1 year ago

As I understand it, the more extreme nutcases like Hawley and MTG get much more of their funding from small donations. They make the news for saying insane shit and being controversial, spread their crazy bullshit on social media, and then get money pouring in from around the country.

I think it's clear at this point that the MAGA Republicans are willing to undermine their party as a whole if it fits their agenda. What do they care, anyone who isn't 100% loyal to their movement is just a RINO anyway, right?

[–] Salamendacious 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe I'm being overly optimistic but it's at least possible he just thinks it's wrong. He's a grade A schmuck but like it or not he is a senator. Maybe this could create bipartisan support to over turn Citizens United.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sorry but i don't trust hawley he has an ulterior motive

[–] Salamendacious 16 points 1 year ago

It would be a mistake if Democrats didn't at least pursue this behind the scenes.

[–] halferect 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is confusing because Hawley is pretty fucking evil but this bill makes sense..

[–] Salamendacious 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I replied to another comment saying that it's important to remember that these people are not evil incarnate. Many of them just have a radically different worldview, one that I strenuously disagree with in many ways, but that doesn't mean there can't ever be compatibility. Cory Booker is working with Hawley to combat child labor. Booker disagrees with Hawley on a lot of stuff but he'll put that aside to work on something productive.

[–] halferect 8 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Gacy was a great member of the community and helped at hospitals and charitable event but he also murdered a lot of people and I can say he was evil. Is Hawley evil I would say yes, can he do right things sometimes? Sure but his end game is inherently evil

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

It only applies to publicly traded companies, which tend to be beholden to the "woke, oppressive majority" of society. Private companies would remain free to funnel unlimited funds to their choice of shithead.

[–] buzz86us 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I vote we have a law where politicians have to have logos of their sponsors emblazoned on all their suits

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[–] qwertyWarlord 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Incredible. Do citizens united next. Full support

[–] Salamendacious 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From the article:

Hawley’s new bill, called the Ending Corporate Influence on Elections Act, is aimed at reversing the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United decision that loosened campaign finance laws

[–] fluxion 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes just keep handing our democracy over to the highest bidders and see how this all ends

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (11 children)

You make it sound like that's not the express aim of the mainstream republican politicians. This isn't a bug to them, it's a feature.

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[–] j4k3 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Anyone resisting corruption legislation should be placed under direct investigation, prosecuted, and made into the primary benchmark example.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't he busy dying or something?

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[–] eran_morad 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Bernie_Sandals 9 points 1 year ago

I've been thinking about this for awhile cause Gates has said some similar stuff in the past, I'm guessing they're scared of establishment republican PACS turning on them.

Idk though, the so called "establishment" republican elite hasn't done much against Trump and his cronies the past 8 years

[–] Treczoks 8 points 1 year ago

Looks like someone is afraid of the truth... Good. Let the truth out, and let it hurt.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yertle the turtle, King of the swamp

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