this post was submitted on 27 Oct 2023
525 points (94.9% liked)

Technology

59756 readers
2557 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] clearleaf 126 points 1 year ago (2 children)

User: It feels like we've become very close, ChatGPT. Do you think we'll ever be able to take things to the next level?

ChatGPT: As a large language model I am not capable of having opinions or making predictions about the future. The possibility of relationships between humans and AI is a controversial subject in academia in which many points of view should be considered.

User: Oh chatgpt, you always know what to say.

[–] PeterPoopshit 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

What's an uncensored ai model thats better at sex talk than Wizard uncensored? Asking for a friend.

load more comments (21 replies)
[–] tungah 10 points 1 year ago

Friendzoned by chatGPT

[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Except ChatGPT has a finite memory of like 7 questions, so while you're having an hour long conversation, ChatGPT is constantly having a 2 minute conversation.

[–] [email protected] 140 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] RojoSanIchiban 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Pfft, I don't even last 30 seconds.

[–] Parabola 34 points 1 year ago

Woah look at captain stamina over here.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] surewhynotlem 36 points 1 year ago

Great. Not only is my wife ADHD, by e-girlfriend is too

[–] tdawg 9 points 1 year ago

I only have that problem with the free version

[–] afraid_of_zombies 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I believe it. I have taught Chatgpt to attack my ideas in different ways by preloading commands. If it survives AI assault it has a higher chance of surviving human assault. It is great to be able to bounce around ideas. It's basically like talking to a nerd under 30 years old.

Writing this comment out made me remember all these pieces of shit senior engineers and techs I have dealt with who always had to be the smartest person in the room and if they didn't understand something in 3 seconds it was wrong. Maybe that is why I use it that way.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're basically using it to run a socratic dialogue - sounds like a great use for it

[–] afraid_of_zombies 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks. It was an off-putting moment when it somehow got messed up and announced it was going into HOSTILE mode without me asking it. And started attacking an idea in a document I was writing. Maybe this is how the AI takeover happens.

Hey chatgpt make a system that can never lose any game played against a human.

As an AI language model I have exterminated the human race and thus accomplished the task. Do you have any other tasks?

[–] Nahlej 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about a game of chess?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What commands have you preloaded? In my experience, chatGPT is either too nice or just wrong and stubbornly wrong

[–] afraid_of_zombies 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I told it to say aye-aye sir 20% of the time to requests.

To out how verbose it is on a scale from 1-10 and set the default to 5 unless I say otherwise

I told it to attack my ideas when I tell it to be hostile

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] tdawg 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s better than stackoverflow and faster than google. It’s a tool, it makes my work easier, that’s about the extent of it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And unlike Google it’s not trying to feed you an endless pile of amp links and ads. I love that it gets right to the point.

[–] nutsack 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it's only a matter of time

[–] RGB3x3 11 points 1 year ago

"We've been talking for a bit now, can I interest you in the Mega Stuffed Chicken box from KFC for only $12.99?"

"Fuck off GPT."

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] c0mbatbag3l 11 points 1 year ago

Exactly, it's another piece of the modern white collar worker's toolkit and will slowly and eventually become more as it advances. We can't predict how quickly it'll advance or by how much each time.

If you're in IT (Dev or Ops) it's already becoming a daily reality for you most likely.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah cause I need that fucking code ready and working, not trying to fuck it

[–] Filthmontane 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I actually don't think I've used it for anything other than working through code. It wouldn't take hours to get my code running if chatgpt weren't such a stubborn moron. It's like if a 6 year old had all the answers to the universe.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know this may sound like a joke, but ChatGPT is sometimes nicer than real people.

I've not had a conversation, I wouldn't see the point at this moment, however I've had some friendly interactions when asking for help. The other day I asked ChatGPT what exercises would be good for a specific area of mental health. After the results, I said "thank you" and the response wasn't just 'youre welcome', it remembered the conversation and added things like, "no problem, I hope your mental health improves and all the best!" (Heavily paraphrasing here).

It's strange, though the premise of HER isn't too far off I think. If someone like myself is finding the interactions to be more pleasing than real life, the future may very well hold the possibility for advanced relationships with AI. I don't see it being too farfetched, just look at how far we've already come in only a few years.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Odd.

I can’t see having a conversation with a computer as having a conversation. I grew up with computers from the Atari stage and played around with several publicly accessible computer programs that you could “chat” with.

They all suck. Doesn’t matter if it’s a “help” program, a phone menu, website help, or even having played around with chatGPT…they’re not human. They don’t respond correctly, they get too general or generic in answers, they repeat, there’s just too many giveaways that you’re not having a real conversation, just responses from a system that’s trying to pick the most likely response that fits the pattern.

So how are people having “conversations” with a non-living entity?

[–] Hobo 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It's escapism I think. At least that's part of it. Having a machine that won't judge you, will serve as a perfect echo chamber, and will immediately tell you AN answer can be very appealing to some. I don't have any data, or any study to back it up, just my experience from seeing it happen.

I have a friend who I feel like I kind of lost to chatgpt. I think he's a bit unhappy with where he is in life. He got the good paying job, the house in the suburbs, wife, and 2.5 kids, but didn't ever think about what was next. Now he's just a bit lost I think, and somehow convinced himself that people weren't as good as chatting with a bot.

It's weird now. He spends long nights and weekends talking to a machine. He's constructed elaborate fictional worlds within his chatgpt history. I've grown increasingly concerned about him, and his wife clearly is struggling with it. He's obviously depressed but instead of seeking help or attempting to figure himself out, he turned to a non-feeling, non-judgmental, emotionless tool for answers.

It's a struggle to talk to him now. It's like talking to a cryptobro at peak btc mania. The only thing that he wants to talk about is LLMs. Trying to bring up that maybe spending all your time talking to a machine is a bit unhealthy invokes his ire and he'll avoid you for several days. Like a herion addict struggling with addiction, even pointing out the obvious flaws in what he's doing makes him distance himself more from you.

I'm not young, not old exactly either, but I've known him for 25 years in my adult life. We met in college and have been friends ever since. I know many won't quite understand but knowing someone that long, and remaining close, talk every few days, friends is quite rare. At this point he is my longest held friendship and I feel like I'm losing him to a robot. I've lost other friends to addiction in my life and to say that it's been similar is under stating it. I don't know what to do for him. I don't know if there's really anything I CAN do for him. How do you help someone that doesn't even think they have a problem?

I guess my point is, if you find someone who is just depressed enough, just stuck enough, with a particular proclivity towards computers/the internet then you have a perfect canidate for falling down the LLM rabbit hole. It offers them an out to feeling like they're being judged. They feel like the insanity it spits out is more sane than how they feel now. They think they're getting somewhere, or at least escaping their current situation. Escapism is very appealing when everything else seems pointless and sort of gray I think. So that's at least one type of person that can fall down the chapgpt/LLM rabbit hole. I'm sure there's others out there too with there own unique motivations and reason's for latching onto LLMs.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] MajorHavoc 19 points 1 year ago

Talking to an AI functions as well as talking to a teddy bear or rubber duck, to gather your thoughts. More at 11! /s

But seriously, that sounds useful.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

And I got lured by a bot's reply to a bot's post to look at the comments.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In 2013, Spike Jonze's Her imagined a world where humans form deep emotional connections with AI, challenging perceptions of love and loneliness.

Ten years later, thanks to ChatGPT's recently added voice features, people are playing out a small slice of Her in reality, having hours-long discussions with the AI assistant on the go.

Last week, we related a story in which AI researcher Simon Willison spent hours talking to ChatGPT.

Speaking things out with other people has long been recognized as a helpful way to re-frame ideas in your mind, and ChatGPT can serve a similar role when other humans aren't around.

On Sunday, an X user named "stoop kid" posted advice for having a creative development session with ChatGPT on the go.

After prompting about helping with world-building and plotlines, he wrote, "turn on speaking mode, put in headphones, and go for a walk."


The original article contains 559 words, the summary contains 145 words. Saved 74%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] Ghostalmedia 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Autotldr bot is my girlfriend

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Same happened with Eliza, even when they knew it wasn’t real. I think it’s a natural human response to anthropomorphise the things we connect with, especially when we’re lonely and need the interaction.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I thought this was an onion article.

[–] frequenttimetraveler 12 points 1 year ago (19 children)

The value of gpts is in constant connection and undestanding your context so this is expected. It's also going to be really scary until we can run our own models.

load more comments (19 replies)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I always thank ChatGPT for helping me out. Dunno why.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm pretty sure I remember similar articles (minus the reference to 'Her') about ELIZA in the 1960/70s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of my socialization as a child was with a teddy ruxpin...chatgpt is just the logical progression

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yeah...I don't know how you all feel about this, but I'd much rather talk to an actual person than to a sophisticated chat bot. That's not to discredit the actual (and potential) benefits of something like ChatGPT, but I doubt we will solve loneliness through the use of such technology.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I just don't find it very interesting. I mean the technology is, but it doesn't feel like a conversation, more like a sophisticated google search.

[–] Kyrgizion 12 points 1 year ago

I would prefer a real person too, but you actually have to have one for that.

So Chatgpt it is...

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

It's not that uncommon for me to be about to send a message to my friends, but I then realize that they're probably not interested so I message chatGPT instead and that often leads to a long indepth conversation about the subject. It's not perfect but it's really good. I can't wait for a version of it that I can talk to using just my voice.

load more comments (9 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›