I'm unfamiliar with her, but good on her for asking questions that are intended to make these people give impromptu and unrehearsed answers to questions that aren't soft queries on banal bullshit.
this post was submitted on 29 Sep 2023
407 points (97.9% liked)
politics
19226 readers
2966 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
What were thier responses?
"woke CRT is destroying America!"
Cue right wing audience applause
9-11
“Thanks Obama!”
"Why wasn't Obama at ground zero with the first responders!?!?"
*RABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLE
"Hitler did some good things."
Nine... Eleven.
Copied from
CALDERON: Governor DeSantis, I have a question for you. Governor DeSantis, I have a question for you. This new black history curriculum says quote, “slaves develop skills which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit.”
You have said slaves develop skills in spite of slavery not because of it. But many are still hurt. For descendants of slaves, this is personal. What is your message to them?
DESANTIS: So first of all, that’s a hoax that was perpetrated by Kamala Harris. We are not going to be doing that. Second of all, that was written by descendants of slaves. These are great black history scholars. So we need to stop playing these games.
Here’s the deal. Our country’s education system is in decline because it’s focused on indoctrination, denying parent rights. Florida represents the revival of American education. We’re ranked number one in the nation in education by US News and World Report.
CALDERON: Vice President Pence, the Department of Homeland Security warns that violence against LGBTQ plus people is on the rise and intensifying, according to a recent study, members of that community are nine times more likely to be victims of violent hate crimes. As President, how would you protect this community from violent attacks and discrimination?
PENCE: Well, as President of the United States, I’ll — I’ll stand up for the safety and the civil liberties of every American, from every background. And I want the American people to know that. But I want to answer the question as well as, Dana, that you just asked Burgum. Because my way of full disclosure, Chris, you mentioned the President’s situation. I — my wife isn’t a member of the Teachers Union, but I got to admit I — I’ve been sleeping with a teacher for 38 years and a full disclosure. Look, education is a state and local function.
DESANTIS: So first of all, that’s a hoax that was perpetrated by Kamala Harris.
Lol what a tool
So DeSantis lied and Pence tried to jump on that then answer her question.
And what assholes told him Florida is number 1 in education?
Yeah its like #5.. jk its #1
That link says #14 in K-12 education, which is what the question was about. So this is a perfect example of cherry picking some data (#1 in higher education) that sounds like it proves his point, but not really.
Additionally, if you click on that #1 Higher Education, it explains that it's based on the share of citizens who have degrees and student loan debt, which could all have little to do with the colleges in Florida. It also takes graduation rates of Florida colleges into account, which is an important metric, but without some context showing the quality of the programs, it doesn't mean much.
So essentially all that metric shows is that people with money who can afford college tend to retire where we all already consider the retirement capital of the county. Neat.
I was just posting what he probably referenced. Its not very nuanced, his voter base isnt going to look too deeply into it...
Shit even you guys wouldnt have looked into it had I not pointed it out.
We’re ranked number one in the nation in education by US News and World Report.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._News_%26_World_Report_Best_Colleges_Ranking#2023%E2%80%9324_rankings
LoL not even close
lol “the black chick did it”
Weird that he says he's been sleeping with a teacher for so long, I wonder who he's referring to since he and Mother (his pet name for his wife) sleep in separate bedrooms by his own admission.
load more comments
(1 replies)
A metric shit ton of question dodging occured.
They don't actually say in the article.... I Guess they can take the news out of CNN
load more comments
(6 replies)
Alternative title: "Republicans furious because debate moderator asked real questions to candidates expecting 10-ply softball questions"
Why are they so afraid of answering questions that 50% of the country is asking? If it’s such a ridiculous question, take the opportunity to give it the answer it deserve and appreciate the person that gave you that opportunity.
I get it, though, to the fascists, a question is a dangerous thing.
Because the 50% that are asking those questions are the exact people Republicans don’t give a shit about.
I would argue 50% is low-balling the percentage of people they don't give a shit about.
I'd have to guess the number is closer to 99% based on the country's wealth distribution.
The people Republicans hate, you mean. The people Republicans don't give a shit about are other Republicans.
Good for her. We are their citizens too. One has a responsibility to their constituents even ones they dislike
I haven't been paying attention. Is Mike Pence running for president? Doesn't he remember when his own supporters tried to hang him? Who would vote for him?
Mother, mother would vote for him... if pence allowed her to vote.
There’s a thought that most of them are running for the vp spot. If Trump wins he’ll only be able to serve one term. Whoever is the vp has an advantage in 2028.
If Trump gets in the Whitehouse again he won't be leaving until he is dead. They do all know he and his hardcore followers are trying to set him as a dictator?
And feudalist society is trying help make that happy with their 2025 project.
If he manages to finish his term. Biden's old but so is Trump.
The DACA dodge by pence had me furious. I wish she would have just cut off their mics.
What was the question?
It was just about what to do with all the “dreamers”, the children of illegal immigrants, many of whom are adults now with jobs and families.
Pence just refused to say what he’d do one way or the other.
How dare she ask the easiest softballs possible of candidates who should have well-prepared answers to!
A woman asking men questions!!! The horror!! Woke culture has gone insane!!!!
LMFAO, I love that the "young Republicans of Iowa" is a room full of old white men.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
After welcoming viewers in Spanish (the debate was simulcast on Univision), Calderón queried the Republicans through the night on weighty issues related to immigration, hate crimes, health care, and more.
Ahead of the debate, which ultimately averaged 9.5 million viewers, Calderón told the Los Angeles Times she viewed her co-moderator role as a “big responsibility to represent all of our community” and was “preparing real and respectful questions.”
She later asked former vice president Mike Pence: “The Department of Homeland Security warns that violence against LGBTQ+ people is on the rise and intensifying.
But the unsparing and frank manner in which she engaged with the Republican field prompted a wave of ferocious backlash from right-wing media figures watching back at home and one of Fox News’ own prime time hosts.
“Why did the RNC who is supposed to stand for our values allow Univision BS leftist questions?” CPAC boss Matt Schlapp asked.
The outrage incited by the journalist’s questions spoke to a larger, worrisome trend that has taken root in the Republican Party in recent years, particularly under the thumb of Donald Trump, where right-wing figures often flock to friendly outlets to air their claims unchallenged.
The original article contains 655 words, the summary contains 196 words. Saved 70%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
The hero we need.
What do you think you’re doing?Don’t ask them hard questions! You’re supposed to just serve them lay-ups, not anything incisive and challenging!
view more: next ›