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[–] theragu40 100 points 1 year ago (30 children)

Why smoking remains so prevalent. I'm sure it's not a majority that smokes, but it is massively more common anywhere I've been in Europe than here in the US. I live in a fairly large city and I will go many days in a row without seeing a single person smoking.

I just don't really get it. It's gross, it smells, it ruins your teeth and your lungs, and it's expensive. Why do it?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In my case, and this the US, I had friends who smoked.

I was curious, bummed one, and once I got past the coughing I really enjoyed the effects, that said by the time you no longer get the "high" (for lack of a better word) you're addicted.

Fast forward 20 years and I'm still trying to quit.

Quit for 5 years cold turkey, but... Shit went down in almost every facet of my life, and I went back.

But I'm down to about a pack a week.

One in the morning, one on the road to work, and one or two during my shift if time allows.

Just need to kick it for good.

Edit: To correct typos

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Hey dude, I believe in you. You can do it again and do it for good! Don't give up.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

It's not necessarily that smoking is a larger percentage of the population. It varies, but stats show a similar percentage more or less... it is a bit higher in Europe on average than in the US on average — but both places are large with varied amounts of smokers. It's more that people are outside near each other more in Europe.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/smoking-rates-by-country

In Europe they're walking down the street, sitting outdoors at cafes, hanging out in the city center, etc. Whereas in the US, people are often driving from place to place to go to a destination, so you don't notice the smoking as much. Plus, smoking sections are a concept that exists in the US (even outside), whereas they don't in Europe. Thankfully, in much of the US and EU, most places are finally non-smoking indoors now.

This is a gross overgeneralization. It's different in different parts of the US and different parts of Europe, of course.

(FWIW: I totally agree with you that it's gross. And it's far too common to run into in Europe.)

[–] Pat12 16 points 1 year ago

Why smoking remains so prevalent. I’m sure it’s not a majority that smokes, but it is massively more common anywhere I’ve been in Europe than here in the US. I live in a fairly large city and I will go many days in a row without seeing a single person smoking.

I just don’t really get it. It’s gross, it smells, it ruins your teeth and your lungs, and it’s expensive. Why do it?

this is the same in asia. sometimes people don't even smoke, they just smoke because their boss does it and they do it to fit in at work. it's really awful.

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[–] AndreaHill 96 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why do they not want to go bankrupt from major health issues?

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was listening a podcast about cancer patient in France.

One talk was about the fact that the surgeon was planning on removing the breast tumor AND do the reconstruction directly after.

Except that by doing that the operation would have cost more than what the national social security covers, so it meant a big premium for the patient.

The "big" premium they were taking about was 600€ which is obviously outrageous. To make a cancer patient spend this much money on a life saving procedure.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago

The "big" premium they were taking about was 600€ which is obviously outrageous. To make a cancer patient spend this much money on a life saving procedure.

European here: I agree with this being outrageous. It's not about the money, it's about being a civilised society.

Now hospital parking on the other hand...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (11 children)

We do have some steep copayments for some treatments as well. For example, if I had to go to the hospital for a month I'd have to pay about 1000 EUR myself.

[–] FlyingSquid 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was in the hospital for an outpatient procedure a couple of years ago here in the U.S. So not even overnight. I have good insurance. It cost me $2500.

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[–] crypticthree 90 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Monarchy. It's the 21st Century and y'all still pay people to live a lavish lifestyle because they are distantly related to some warlord from the 9th century

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Then again, the people in all countries pay for the lifestyle of the politicians... in addition to the bribes they get for deciding in favor of whichever corporate and/or rich person needs a specific law passed or vetoed.

At least the monarchs do what you pay them for .... entertain you.

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[–] forgotaboutlaye 74 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Specific to Germany, but when a second cashier opens up, it's a first come first serve rush for it, rather than letting the person next inline at the original cashier take the first spot in the new one.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Completely agree. I am German and it's utterly ridiculous.

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[–] Mantis_Toboggan 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I belong to neither of these groups. But here goes it.

Europe: when ordering water, I have to specify for it not to have gas (non-carbonated). Also in places like Germany, people drink those before playing football. I don’t understand how you do it or even like it that way.

People in electric scooters are out of control. Specially in Spain. They’re the most egregious when it comes to disrespecting pedestrian crosswalks, dangerous overtaking in bike lanes and all around assholeness. You shouldn’t ride your fucking patinete in a train station crowded with people.

— —-

People from the US: Your tipping culture is out of control. It’s good for outstanding service on certain scenarios. But not for handing me takeout or pulling out a foamy beer from a cooler.

Also , don’t tell newly-aquatinted people from the south that you’re not religious. They’ll try to tell you it’s their duty to save your soul and try to make you go to their religious services, which antagonizes them if you try to set boundaries on your personal beliefs.

Btw. I still like you both.

[–] FooBarrington 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Europe: when ordering water, I have to specify for it not to have gas (non-carbonated). Also in places like Germany, people drink those before playing football. I don’t understand how you do it or even like it that way.

I like the taste of TV static. Sue me!

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[–] rigamarole 16 points 1 year ago

American here, I saw a tip jar for the cashiers in a flea market yesterday. I completely agree, it's out of control. It would be great if employers would just pay their employees properly instead of asking customers to subsidize wages.

[–] beefcat 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)
  • No ice in their water or soda
  • No refills on fountain drinks

These are the things that stood out to me whenever I have visited.

I spent a good while in Berlin once and one of my favorite restaurants was this Australian themed place by the IMAX theater just because I could get a nice big Diet Coke with ice in it. Their kangaroo sandwich also wasn’t half bad.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're not getting refills anyway, I'd rather not have 80% ice with a bit of soda

[–] givesomefucks 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The process of a soda fountain makes already it cold.

Ice is completely pointless and without it you don't need refills

[–] beefcat 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ice keeps the soda cold throughout your meal.

In Europe my soda was often pretty close to room temperature by the time my food arrived. Not great if you like your beverages “ice cold”. But I get the impression Europeans don’t like their drinks as cold as we do in the US to begin with.

We also use larger glassware in the US, which offsets much of the volume displaced by ice.

So no, ice is not “completely pointless”, it’s just a cultural difference 🙂

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[–] floatingPoint 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, it might just be a rumor but I hear that instead of being born with arms, Europeans are born with baguette extremities. They nibble on their baguette arms throughout the day, and they grow back while they’re sleeping.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Nah that's just the french, they're a little weird. Us germans got normal pretzel arms

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[–] Th3D3k0y 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I met up for lunch with a buddy and his partner who was visiting from Europe. I mentioned that I drink a lot of water and asked for a refill, they asked if water was free.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Typically they ask you for still or sparkling while dining and they charge in Europe. In London, I typically just say, "tap". They had to legally serve it.

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[–] Salad_Fries 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I know that a short visit doesnt give great insight into a place, but the following 2 things were very striking to me when visiting:

1 - the smoking.. i found it disturbing just how many people were smoking 2 - the graffiti. I was surprised by just how much graffiti there was. Do people not take pride in their property enough to wash it off? I know Graffiti is common everywhere, but it seemed to be on a whole other level in europe.. like it wasnt just on the back alleys, but on the front facades of buildings too. The front door of one of my airbnbs was covered in graffiti.

There was 1 thing though that was totally the opposite though & made total sense... the dual function windows (where you turn the handle 1 way to open them like a door & another way to lean them in to provide ventilation. These were everywhere & i found them to be the most functional thing ever! I wish they would catch on in the usa.. with that said, the first time i discovered this functionality, it was accidental. I panicked as i thought i broke the window lol.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

The graffiti thing kills me. Washing it off is a waste, it will be vandalised again quickly. Think this way, repaint properly a wall takes time and money, to draw a cartoonishly large cock takes seconds and costs pennies. So many places chose to allow selected artists do some good stuff as it’s a better deterrent.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No disabled access almost everywhere, even in newer buildings.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (15 children)

It largely depends on the European nation. Even as a non-native, I don't tend to lump them all in one judgment, just as Europeans shouldn't lump all Americans in one judgment. Every American state is different. Reply to this comment with a European country and I'll share the thing about it that I understand the least.

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[–] AndreaHill 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How do they put up with the lack of mass shootings ?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why some of them seem downright gleeful about every American shortcoming or perceived shortcoming.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As if we don't do the same between the states.

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[–] JWayn596 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Self defense laws are pretty weird in Europe. I am spoiled on our second amendment laws, so let my bias be noted.

However, some guy can break into your house and if you defend yourself with a bat or knife, the laws there from what I hear (this isn't fact, I could be mistaken) can get you in trouble with the law. I remember reading that somewhere.

Sure it's like that in the US too but there are many protections for those who clearly have acted in self defense.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I think the difference is welf defense in Europe is defending your person, not your property. If someone breaks in, you don't have the right to hurt them. You call the police. If they were trying to attack you or you alerting them to your presence makes them come for you, then of course you can defend yourself.

Self defence is just that. Defence of the self.

One thing that your 2a right also means is that your criminals are likely to be armed. Ours are less likely to be and certainly much less likely for petty crime. The police in Ireland, for instanc, don't carry guns.

If someone breaks into my house. I'm not approaching them with hugs. I'm calling the police and grabbing a golf club or poker or similar.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Self defense is of course allowed, but only so far as to prevent harm. It also needs to be adequate to prevent the harm the attacker tried to inflict. So shooting someone who entered isn't okay, you could've just held the gun at them. Which isn't relevant cause you don't have a gun and neither do they, most likely.

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