Bro this isn't news. Its r/TheDonald, Lemmygrad, and half of youtube and facebook. This has been happening since 2016.
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I’d still say it’s news, it’s just confirming that Russia has continued their same pattern of behavior. Early on the troll farms actually infiltrated communities (I remember reading that they targeted the Bernie subreddit too), but now they just upvote, like, and share unwitting US pawns
Yeah I thought it was weird when so many Bernie supporters switched to Trump. They're political opposites.
Not just that. The whole “Bernie or bust, never support democrats again!” Stuff
There were waves of people who claimed that because their guy Bernie didn't get the nom, they threw a fit and were outright voting 3rd party instead of Biden. Of course, none of them ever went to the polls to vote in the primaries because [insert 14 different excuses]
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I know a former Bernie bro. He switched to trump because "the system fucked Bernie and trump is trying to fuck the system"
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It wasn't even subtle.
I remember posts with thousands of upvotes from this website called thedurian. I googled the people who ran it, one of them had a linkedin which mentioned his location as Moscow and that he had previously worked for RT.
Given I was banned for posting screenshots, I suspect the mods of /r/thedonald were in on it.
TheDonald started as a joke that was legitimately funny. As soon as anyone tried to call it out as a joke, that person would be banned within seconds. That's not normal, volunteer moderation.
There were people with the power to ban paid to control that sub. They took shifts, likely from Russia.
"Id rather be a Russian than a Democrat"
Right around the time Russians stopped being "damn commies" to "antidote to the degenerate west" to them.
Oh SHIT I actually forgot that was a thing commonly heard. Frankly it's been brain breaking news headlines (and usually the even with context it was accurate headlines) since 2015 so hard to remember it all.
It's also Tucker and Talk Radio.
And there is literally nothing to declassify. This has been happening out in the open for years. The FBI has been warning us about this shit multiple times. Yet the funny think is that people don't think it is happening to them.
This has been happening for way longer than that
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That's a shock to no one.
My anti-mask friend kept linking Zero Hedge articles to support his stance. Not recognizing the source, I did 10 minutes of research and told him his sole source of information appeared to be a Russian propaganda vehicle. He went on a very aggressive rant about my arrogance at dismissing his "alt media" out of hand.
About a year later, the FBI publicly outed zero hedge as pedaling Russian propaganda. But apparently that was fake news too.
It's impossible to talk to that guy anymore. He doesn't live in reality.
I too have lost friends to “anti-western alt media”
They tell me how YouTube is censoring everything and thus rumble is the place to go. Gave that site a quick search and learned all I needed to know lol.
They also claim Russia a victim of western aggression but cannot put together a reasonable answer in relation to the invasion of ukr. To no surprise, they also have nothing to say in regards to the persecution of lgbt and non-Roman Catholics, the joke that is their “democracy”. The US is disgusting to them, will trot out foreign policy…. but Russia is A-Okay somehow!
“Oh well I’m not sure of the specifics so maybe they have a good reason”, and yet you’re so sure Russia is the victim? Fucking sad as hell. Lost fucking cause
They say shit like how Iran is one of the most moral countries around. I pointed to the uprisings of women after killings related to hijabs and I was told that I can’t be sure of what’s happening over there. It’s just so fucking obvious that it’s propaganda being parroted, I just don’t understand how you can be so fucking dumb
Not all of the online ones are that dumb. Some are just straight up Russian. Meanwhile 80% of the GOP won't speak out against it because they don't want to lose their seats.
I can't believe we still have operational coal plants in 2023. That fact alone is insane. We should be making a bipartisan plan to phase out the common use of gasoline and diesel. Even just saying we'll tax gas to a price of $10/gallon by 2030 would be enough to make the transition happen.
We should be taking action against anything on the seas burning bunker fuel.
The easiest shit to combat climate change really is low hanging fruit. Of course at this point we'll need active measures as well. We've gone too far to just stop polluting.
Had a similar experience on a forum during peak pandemic, all the sources provided ended up being linked to Russia and mostly to the same person that was involved in a bunch of "news" websites. Try explaining to someone that they don't know how to validate a source... Yeah...
Yuuup. One of his sources saying that covid was overblown was Frontline Doctors of America. I spent 20 minutes looking into who they were. Not a single virologist, pathologist, etc in the bunch, claiming that covid was curable.
He literally said "he lost respect" for me that day when I laughed that one of his source's doctors was on video saying vaginally cysts were caused by demon rape in your dreams. He gave me a back faith victim argument about being disrespectful to other people's cultures.
Yeah dude. Sure. That's what you're upset about, dude who literally told me, verbatim, "emotions are stupid" after I gave him a long thought out multiple page explanation of my side, telling him about seeing my parents waste away because they couldn't go outside because my mother's immuno compromised from chemo, etc etc.
Fuck your bad faith bullshit.
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The report was released by a top ranking military official known as "Captain Obvious".
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Literally everyone knows this
Literally everyone who wasn't duped knows this
I'd bet $100 the FSB is directly responsible for all the red scare propaganda on lemmy.
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I am shocked. This is my shocked face 😮
Aww, how cute. They think these people are doing this unwittingly. I'm convinced there are some people doing this quite wittingly -- and a bunch are in office...
Tucker Carlson is the prime example of this.. he's been doing real estate deals with Russians for a long time, and they feed him his "news"..
No shit
Makes you wonder what kind of disruptive narratives they're pushing online that aren't Russia-related.
What kinds of trends would they want to amplify in western online communities to cause the most harm over time?
Like how a remarkable proportion of pro-Russia social media accounts were also antivaxxers during COVID?
Don't forget climate change denial.
Which is particularly beneficial for Russia as their useless land will become prime agricultural land and they'll have access to more warm water ports.
They say the same for Canada and it doesn't work like that. It isn't going to warm enough, increased variability is even worse for crops, and the soil typically isn't good for agriculture anyway even if the temperature was better.
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Anything the modern far right champions today is destructive to the US so... the entire conservative political ideology.
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The Russian information doctrine is to fuel any fire that has two sides. They don't actually pick sides, they just want nations more divided, because nation that is divided cannot function properly.
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Everyone is focusing on "unwitting Westerners" while I'm focused on "laundering propaganda." Like, that's just how propoganda from other countries works right? Starts from a source, then people who believe the source spread it around their own country.
This seems to be acting like it's some new fangled way to spread fear and misinformation when that's the way it's always worked. The only difference now is that it's all online and people rarely verify sources so they take what they read as facts at face value.
"Unwitting Westerners" they definitely be witting.
I don't think you can call Tucker Carlson or Fox "unwitting". Nor a number of Republican Congresscritters.
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