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[–] Wrench 104 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's a shock to no one.

My anti-mask friend kept linking Zero Hedge articles to support his stance. Not recognizing the source, I did 10 minutes of research and told him his sole source of information appeared to be a Russian propaganda vehicle. He went on a very aggressive rant about my arrogance at dismissing his "alt media" out of hand.

About a year later, the FBI publicly outed zero hedge as pedaling Russian propaganda. But apparently that was fake news too.

It's impossible to talk to that guy anymore. He doesn't live in reality.

[–] Fades 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I too have lost friends to “anti-western alt media”

They tell me how YouTube is censoring everything and thus rumble is the place to go. Gave that site a quick search and learned all I needed to know lol.

They also claim Russia a victim of western aggression but cannot put together a reasonable answer in relation to the invasion of ukr. To no surprise, they also have nothing to say in regards to the persecution of lgbt and non-Roman Catholics, the joke that is their “democracy”. The US is disgusting to them, will trot out foreign policy…. but Russia is A-Okay somehow!

“Oh well I’m not sure of the specifics so maybe they have a good reason”, and yet you’re so sure Russia is the victim? Fucking sad as hell. Lost fucking cause

They say shit like how Iran is one of the most moral countries around. I pointed to the uprisings of women after killings related to hijabs and I was told that I can’t be sure of what’s happening over there. It’s just so fucking obvious that it’s propaganda being parroted, I just don’t understand how you can be so fucking dumb

[–] Serinus 10 points 1 year ago

Not all of the online ones are that dumb. Some are just straight up Russian. Meanwhile 80% of the GOP won't speak out against it because they don't want to lose their seats.

I can't believe we still have operational coal plants in 2023. That fact alone is insane. We should be making a bipartisan plan to phase out the common use of gasoline and diesel. Even just saying we'll tax gas to a price of $10/gallon by 2030 would be enough to make the transition happen.

We should be taking action against anything on the seas burning bunker fuel.

The easiest shit to combat climate change really is low hanging fruit. Of course at this point we'll need active measures as well. We've gone too far to just stop polluting.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Had a similar experience on a forum during peak pandemic, all the sources provided ended up being linked to Russia and mostly to the same person that was involved in a bunch of "news" websites. Try explaining to someone that they don't know how to validate a source... Yeah...

[–] Wrench 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yuuup. One of his sources saying that covid was overblown was Frontline Doctors of America. I spent 20 minutes looking into who they were. Not a single virologist, pathologist, etc in the bunch, claiming that covid was curable.

He literally said "he lost respect" for me that day when I laughed that one of his source's doctors was on video saying vaginally cysts were caused by demon rape in your dreams. He gave me a back faith victim argument about being disrespectful to other people's cultures.

Yeah dude. Sure. That's what you're upset about, dude who literally told me, verbatim, "emotions are stupid" after I gave him a long thought out multiple page explanation of my side, telling him about seeing my parents waste away because they couldn't go outside because my mother's immuno compromised from chemo, etc etc.

Fuck your bad faith bullshit.

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't dismissing something you don't like as stupid an emotional reaction? I mean 'stupid' is not really exactly the same as 'lacking in intelligence,' it's a word with emotional weight.

[–] Wrench 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, it is. And even more infuriating that his next reply, the explanation of HIS stance, was that covid was hurting HIS business (lawyer, ambulance chaser).

He missed the irony completely. And that conversation has done irreparable damage to our friendship. We were very close. I was a groomsman at his wedding before all of this.

We've tried to reconcile, but it's not there. In each of our opinions, the other's head is too far up ones ass.

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 1 year ago

I totally understand. I've been there myself. Not with anyone super close, but I've still lost friends to this insanity.

[–] TwoGems 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those doctors need to lose their license.

[–] Wrench 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I mean, prescribing medication for off label use seems like an easy malpractice suit. These are the dickhead family practice doctors that pushed chlortrimeton on their patients and claimed it cured covid because none of them died.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 5 points 1 year ago

emotions are stupid

If you don't respect or understand your own feelings you are not going to be able to attribute the correct source for them.

Why did you sexually harass her? I wasn't, she was flirting. How else can you explain why I was attracted to her?

Why did you yell at your coworker? He is always doing x!

I bet you that your friend talks like this all the time. He can't accept that he can just be sad or angry or horny or happy. No, his response to a situation is always appropriate. It is everyone else that is doing this to him.

[–] afraid_of_zombies -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never understood this. We know who is writing those articles, we know where he lives (ffs it is Mahwah New Jersey, right on his Wikipedia page), we know he is being funded by the Russian government and yet nothing. How is my government can just randomly murder people for normal activities and yet can't even put the fear of God in this guy? Grab him, perp walk him, throw him in a jail cell with two rival gangs for the night, interrogate him for a day, and ditch him two hours away with no money sne a dead cellphone.

[–] fubo 7 points 1 year ago

Are they registered foreign agents? If so, they're probably in the clear. If not, they may be violating federal law. Americans acting on behalf of a foreign government are required to register with the DOJ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act