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NEW YORK - President Donald Trump’s tariffs have spooked investors, with fears of an economic downturn driving a stock market sell-off that has wiped out US$4 trillion (S$5.3 trillion) from the S&P 500’s peak last month, when Wall Street was cheering much of Mr Trump’s agenda.

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[–] pHr34kY 20 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

$5T? That's just $16K per person. No big deal.

[–] some_designer_dude 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, what is that? A couple grocery trips? Small price to pay for making America so great.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

It's a banana, Michael, what could it cost, $10??

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Sort of but not really.

They aren't really "the US economy". Most of those corporations live outside the bounds of nations. They just have their HQ in the US. Manufacturing etc is done wherever is cheapest, and now they're finding out that they might have to pay real wages and real money to make things in the US.

The losses per person are lower because people from all over the world have investments in those stocks. It's been overvalued for a while and still is.

Americans will still end up poorer though, because even if they move the manufacturing, they'll no longer be able to buy things at Chinese poverty wages.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Trump: This is all Biden's fault, and the Democrats.

MAGA: clapping and cheering

[–] T00l_shed 30 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 hours ago

Holy s***. If you have money in that Jones Trading company, you're getting played, my friend. They would allow themselves to be quoted saying that no one expected that things might not go smoothly? It's their job to plan for such things. The rest of us all expected things to go downhill, so what the heck were they doing?

[–] Nunar 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] RememberTheApollo_ 38 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I’m sure a significant chunk is middle class retirement savings. (Sources are not definitive, but over 40% of the value in the stock market is 401k and other retirement savings).

Gonna F the job market again, too; as people who would retire won’t because their nest egg dried up.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

Granny, time to get a second job, we need eggs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I think that’s not enough.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago

More!!! 🗣️

[–] [email protected] 104 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

The fact that spooking the market could wipe out such an absurd amount of money, larger than many GDPs - and the economy hasn't even crashed completely at all yet - should provide a good reference for how much of billionaire wealth is actually just abstract numbers representing nothing tangible but raw power over people and processes.

[–] billiam0202 31 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

At some level of wealth, money stops being conceptually a medium of exchange for goods and services, and just becomes a scoreboard for bragging rights.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

More or less, although it's important, that it still very much is a medium of power, as its role as financial capital and/or in national budgets ultimately decides which projects and actions are allowed to exist and go through and which aren't

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[–] Redditsux 142 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

The guy who bankrupted a casino is tanking the biggest economy in the world. Who knew!

[–] [email protected] 115 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

bankrupted a casino

That’s false. He bankrupted multiple casinos.

[–] KingGordon 82 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Thats false. He’s bankrupted multiple casinos and hotels.

[–] Carvex 44 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 50 points 20 hours ago

Not quite, he is also morally bankrupt

[–] [email protected] 17 points 18 hours ago

The american stock market is the ultimate casino boss fight for him.

[–] Zachariah 24 points 20 hours ago

The guy who bankrupted a casino is tanking the biggest casino in the world. Who knew!

[–] [email protected] 58 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

1 - Gloating

2 - Hubris

3 - Denial <-------We're somewhere about here, depending on the individual's MAGA level

4 - Doubt

5 - Leopards ate my face

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago
[–] danc4498 52 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Billionaires call this a fire sale. They get richer.

[–] cabron_offsets 12 points 17 hours ago

Not yet. Still a ways to go before proverbial (and maybe literal) blood in the streets.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Good thing I sold off my entire 401k last month 30 years early in anticipation of the market taking a massive dump

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (8 children)

Good job. For what it's worth you should still take your employer match and invest it all outside North America. Don't leave that free money on the table because the US is headed for a depression.

I sold the stocks we had for a down payment on a house late last month too. I have avoided $9000 in losses SO FAR. I was talking about this a couple days ago and was essentially told I'm an idiot for trying to time the market instead of riding the dip. Then yesterday early morning before open I was told I got lucky and better buy back in to lock in my winnings. $5000 of those losses would have occurred yesterday if I'd bought back in. I'm not putting money back in the casino until it's under new management.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Glad you got it out! And glad you didn’t buy the dip before it dipped even harder. Definitely don’t think now is the time to be playing the stock market game unless you have extra money laying around to gamble with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This means that you have cash now? If so, isn’t it dangerous if hyperinflation comes into play? I am just curious, not trying to blame you for anything

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Whether it’s a crashing stock market or inflation both are going to cause your money to become worthless and both can be fixed with time but with crashing stock market if companies don’t rebound in the end and go out of business during the depression then your money is lost forever. At least with inflation there’s a chance it’ll resolve and you’ll have money again in the end.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I certainly do not. I've been unemployed for a month, living on the house money and by wife's income. I tried to tell her yesterday that I'd saved us more money than I would have made working!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Trump is bankrupting ANOTHER CASINO?!?

Art of the Deal, go!

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