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A top White House official has threatened to redraw the Canadian border amid Donald Trump’s ambition to turn the country in America’s “51st state”.

Peter Navarro, one of Donald Trump’s closest advisers, is pushing US negotiators to discuss reworking the border with their Canadian counterparts, The Telegraph can reveal.

“Navarro recommended revising the Canada-US border, which is just crazy and dangerous,” a source close to negotiations told The Telegraph.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

From the Peter Navarro story linked:

According to Mr Navarro's 2001 book, If It's Raining in Brazil, Buy Starbucks, Vara was a captain in a reserve unit during the Gulf War as well as a doctoral student in economics at Harvard University in the US.

Are the freakonomics guys in the government yet?

[–] Art3sian 28 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Sorry America, but you’ve gone Anakin Skywalker. You are now the bad guys.

[–] galanthus 2 points 2 hours ago

America is Palpatine.

It just revealed that it was the sith lord all along.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

Yeaaaaah, a lot of us hate ot here, it isn't like 35% of us that are the douchebags.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Art3sian 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Well, maybe America was always the bad guy, but had (mostly) good people in control of checks and balances. Like, it was always Anakin, but had Obiwan keeping on eye on things.

But now Obiwan is dead and America is in the tower chopping up kids.

[–] WrenFeathers 8 points 10 hours ago

With a sharpie I presume?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If there is an American/Canadian war, I'll sign up on the side of the Canadians. - An American

[–] [email protected] 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This is why I don't think it will ever happen.

US Miliary personnel have worked hand in hand with the Canadians half a century doing everything from joint ops to sharing bases. I think a lot of them would simply refuse to invade Canada without congress first declaring an official war, and congress wouldn't do that because it would be horrifically unpopular with the US populace.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 hours ago

Congress is majority R, I wouldn't put it past them.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Raise your hand if you believe this was all started because Putin told Trump it was a good idea.

[–] seaQueue 27 points 14 hours ago

Canada got serious about pursuing the money behind the freedom convoy and designated a bunch of those groups as domestic terrorists. By law Canada can go after everyone who funded them which, unsurprisingly, is largely Russia via right wing organizations in the US.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana 7 points 14 hours ago

Trump probably got a letter from the "Canadian bureau of land management" (Putin) which pleaded with him to take Canada in

[–] Hobbes_Dent 54 points 15 hours ago

“We protect Canada, but it’s not fair. It’s not fair that they’re not paying their way, and if they had to pay their way they couldn’t exist,” he told reporters.

FUCK YOU

[–] [email protected] 80 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is actually fucking ridiculous

[–] lupusblackfur 42 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

"ridiculous" is a rather generous way to express the absolute lunatic raving idiocy involved in even considering consolidating a sovereign nation (Canada, FFS??) into the fantastical ravings of a Napoleonic miserable little toddler's colonialist dreams in search of some lasting legacy other than first felonious criminal that made it to occupant of the oval office.

🤦‍♀️ 🖕 🖕

[–] PattyMcB 33 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What in the actual fuck?

What are they (I doubt he's smart enough to pull all of this off on his own) doing while we're all aghast at this stupidity?

[–] Xanthobilly 10 points 13 hours ago
[–] ImperialATAT 23 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, I’m cool with redrawing the Canadian border… as long as we add the West Coast to Canada.

[–] seaQueue 12 points 14 hours ago

CA here, I'd like to be able to afford healthcare thanks. Our GDP would help Canada tremendously, it's a fair trade.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 19 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] seaQueue 4 points 14 hours ago

I mean he could nuke the border, that's the other way to deal with hurricanes right?

[–] tyrant 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

OMG, I'm going to be too embarrassed to move to Canada.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

If we put the revised boarder far enough south, you won't need to move

[–] bitchkat 3 points 5 hours ago

Make it so say we all.

[–] tyrant 3 points 5 hours ago

Now you're talking!

[–] CosmicCleric 25 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

When a slight-of-hand trick is in progress, be sure to watch what the other hand is doing.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

My guess is that Medicaid cuts are the big one. Cutting Medicaid ain't popular. It would probably be very much undesirable for Trump and more-generally the GOP if that were the major topic of discussion on social media.

[–] seaQueue 5 points 14 hours ago

Canada is running down the funding sources behind the freedom convoy. A bunch of involved domestic groups have been officially labelled domestic terrorists meaning everyone involved in funding them is on the hook. A whole bunch of that money was laundered through far right wing supporters in the US.

[–] regrub 19 points 15 hours ago

What are they gonna use? A sharpie?

[–] HappySkullsplitter 19 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This is, actually, how it works. See: every other border dispute.

[–] HappySkullsplitter 10 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Can't arbitrarily redraw an international border without negotiation

The United Nations Charter prohibits the annexation of a state's territory by another state through the use of force. Annexation is considered an act of aggression and a violation of international law

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Funny thing about International Law. It only ever seems to apply when when someone has the will and the power to enforce it. Who has the power to enforce it if the US is the guilty party?

[–] HappySkullsplitter 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Sanctions

The US has a LOT of trading partners

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

And yet it regularly happens with little consequence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Bigger army diplomacy is a remarkably effective negotiation strategy.

[–] HappySkullsplitter 3 points 12 hours ago

From William Spaniel

The Madman Theory - The Scientific Art of Negotiating with a Possibly Irrational Opponent

We live in an era where multiple major world leaders have the perception of behaving irrationality. How should the opponent of such a leader negotiate in such cases? It turns out, what makes the situation more interesting is how a rational leader should behave if others think he may be irrational. This is known as the "madman theory" of international relations. Today, we take a deep look into it and see that the benefits of being a perceived madman are fleeting.

[–] mercano 8 points 14 hours ago

The hamberders can not give this guy a heart attack fast enough.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

A class of children playing classroom-united-nations would be slammed by their teacher for doing this as "unrealistic".

[–] NocturnalMorning 6 points 15 hours ago

So, what's the distraction for, Medicaid, social security, the slow march into a christofascist dicatorship? (Nah, they like that last one)

[–] thebigslime 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Give Canada Point Roberts, WA and the Northwest Angle, MN.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

In for all of Cascadia tbh

[–] seaQueue 5 points 14 hours ago

The Pacific States of America has a nice ring to it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Peter Navarro is not a serious person. He’s a fucking moron and he always has been.

[–] Jerb322 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Wasn't this a movie? Comedy, guys from super troopers, maybe....? It was a dispute over a single town, but you know what, I mean.

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