Bruh, if they keep doing this, Olympus Has Fallen's plot is gonna seem realistic
(Can we just get Morgan Freeman instead of whatever this dumpsterfire we got?)
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Bruh, if they keep doing this, Olympus Has Fallen's plot is gonna seem realistic
(Can we just get Morgan Freeman instead of whatever this dumpsterfire we got?)
I think you mean Civil War (2024).
You're going to have the war last year? That's certainly ambitious.
No, but I live in the Plex/Jellyfin world of unambiguously naming movies by adding the year of the release in parentheses.
they should call him PUS instead of POTUS.
Putin's Orange ~~Teenager~~ Toddler Undermining Stability
And You know what's even worse? They did it a second time. After he fucked them over the first time.
Asking my Trump-voting Navy dad about this, wish me luck fam
Well what did he say
It's been 10 hours, I don't think they survived
What I've found works in exposing their bias and letting you know you'll never get an honest opinion is reversing the positions.
When news came out in his first term that Trump was having Lou Dobbs on conference call during important meetings I asked my dad "did you hear that Obama used to have Anderson Cooper on conference calls during important meetings?" and naturally he says "of course he would, that's pretty messed up they shouldn't allow that kind of stuff." then I apologized for lying and said "it was actually Lou Dobbs and Trump." again naturally he then changes his tune "oh, well Lou Dobbs is a respectable journalist, that's different..."
Ok thanks dad, I now know I can never trust your opinion. It changes based on whether it's your team or not.
"Did you hear biden's son in law was the ambassador to Ukraine? And right after he stepped down from his position, Ukraine invested 2 BILLION dollars with his company? Yeah that's messed up. Oh whoops, it was Jared kushner and Saudi Arabia, my bad."
I hit a guy with that one. I actually got him to say yeah they should investigate that.
inb4 "she must have been up to something, they wouldn't just fire her for no reason"
Clearly an unqualified DEI hire, luckily she'll be replaced by a 'qualified white male'
/s cause that made me vomit.
Ooo... Do provide an update.
Checking in for later
Imagine putting a fucking bird on your chest for forty years, saluting a piece of fabric, sacrificing your family and shit.
40 years of putting on that clown makeup and they just stick the nose on someone else.
That took a turn for the based at the end.
Hey the best people are the ones who toe the line
Let's not pretend it was ever anything different
My understanding is that Obama encouraged frank expression of different opinions in the Cabinet. Not every leader values blind obedience.
If we traveled back in time 10 years and started showing people these headlines, they'd put us in a mental hospital.
To be fair, we have a former actor and comedian as the president. The difference is he isn't a fascist piece of human garbage, not so much in the career paths.
From what I've read, Zelensky as comedian made intelligent political and anti corruption criticism. Making jokes about the bad things in life, highlighting them, setting the stage for something being done about those problems. Broader than his on screen personality, he had middle class beginnings and on the back of his comedy work, he build a successful career as TV producer/executive. You probably know more about this than I do.
Trump as TV personality looked more like the most clueless person in the room, while all the actual work was done by others behind the scenes. No intelligence, no social commentary. Before his role in the apprentice, Trump had started his business career as a Nepo baby, and as a businessman he had failed every venture that he had tried, each time leaving a bloodbath of unpaid bills behind, a reverse Midas. And once his face was known from TV, he started with large scale scams like Trump University.
Those are 2 very different career paths.
The last supposedly Ukrainian person I talked to here was very anti Zelenskyy and wanted him to just lay down arms. What's your opinion on the matter? Do you want your country to keep fighting? Do you qualify for the draft yourself?
I ponder that sometimes. I wonder if a comedian has made such a solid leader because a comedian's role to society is to speak truths that go unheard, and to make unbearable times bearable. I find myself questioning if every leader shouldn't be a comedian
Reminds me of this character in Watchmen. Calls himself the Comedian, but never makes "jokes" in a classical sense. He is cruel, overly patriotic, violent against protesters, seems to enjoy massacres in Vietnam. Only one other person understands that he is actually against these things and tries to show them this hyperbolic mirror of their own totalitarian views. But everybody else doesn't understand it, they take it face value and admire his "patriotism". He never breaks role until the last moment (or even then just in the movie?).
Entirely Unironically:
AOC for Pres, Jon Stewart for Vice Pres, 2028.
This campaign would stand a chance at actually winning.
AOC and Stewart are both well known, basically celebrities.
AOC is actually capable of recreating the mix of genuine charisma combined with well articulated, meaningful actual policy points that Obama did in 07.
Jon Stewart is obviously no stranger to politics, and is possibly the literally ideal 'attack dog' that the VP usually plays in a campaign, for an anti corporate / billionaire campaign.
Let AOC be as principled and erudite as JFK and Stewart be as cutting and 'no bullshit' as Lyndon Jonhson.
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Are either of them perfect?
No.
Are they basically the best possible options?
Well, Bernie is awesome, but he's too old.
Absolutely utilize him as much as possible during the campaign, be at every rally, fucking have him be the head of a leftist version of what Elon is, god knows by the time 2028 rolls around, the executive will have formally and informally assumed way too much power.
Put Bernie in charge of purging the Trump/Elon pukes, directing the revokation or countermanding of everyone of Trump's executive orders, undoing Citizens United, and reassembling the checks and balances.
...
Other than that... are any other democrats or leftists anywhere near as well known and widely, generally liked by non fascists? Who aren't bought and paid for by corpos?
Some surveys seem to support that this direction could have worked. As a German, I supported the course of the Democrats to go with a presidential candidate and policies that democratic conservatives could get behind. About half of the voters in the US want less democracy, more totalitarianism. For a chance to stop Trump, it seemed reasonable just get all supporters of freedom and democracy behind a single candidate. But maybe I was wrong.
I have my doubts that there will be an election in 2028.
Ya know, this sounds downright plausible. More so than any other ticket I can imagine anyway, middle-of-the-road corporate democrats sure are played out, but hey, from what I understand the Dems literally argued after the election about whether they didn't go left enough or didn't go "center" enough, so.
I think it might be part that and part the fact that the war happened in the first place. Like, before the full scale invasion, he really wasn't that remarkable. But I guess sometimes hard times do actually make strong men.
Yeah but plenty of leaders have been absolute shit under pressure is kind of my point
a large portion of the electorate doesn't choose anything. they do what their televisions command them. who controls the targeted messaging platforms which have been poisoning people's minds? they are the real enemies of The People.
This. I've had heated discussions with people who can't believe someone from outside of their country knows more than the average citizen (read: himself) knows about the country's politics.
It's called educating oneself in preparation for consequences of having an elephant in a china shop. It's also what prudent, sensible adults do. Smfh.
Hopefully this'll convince more people to turn out for the midterms and do their due diligence.
Nevermind the consequences of gerrymandering, targeted disenfranchisement, and winner take all electioneering.
Trump won the GOP primary in 2016 in no small part because our electoral system rewards name recognition over policy or popular support.
You either submit to media manipulation or you are statistically removed from the voting rolls.
Twice
Not "elected" once, but twice.
I'm pretty sure soliciting a foreign adversary to interfere in US elections twice isn't being elected, it's committing treason. I'm hoping to buy his gallbladder off eBay for scientific research once the lynching is over
I have very little time for people who try to blame voters for a fascist coup engineered by US and russian elites.
I don't know man, that shit (fascism) was out in the OPEN since at least Jan 6.
Fascism is a disease that humans are unfortunately susceptible to, especially when deprived of resources and education.
I would no more blame trump voters enmasse than I would blame the addicts huddled under bridges for the horrors of the drug trade.
The people to blame are those benefiting by exploiting the weaknesses of the human animal that make the lies of fascism seem appealing.
I don't recognize the need to identify the people to blame. There are multiple parties with various degrees of culpability. Yes, the primary blame lies with people who orchestrated the exploitation. But blame also lies with those who fell for such and obvious grift, and those who didn't vote, and those who voted third party out of protest.
Concentrating all blame on one party without nuance is exactly the tribalist nonsense that powers fascism.
I blame capitalism, the voters, and fascist rich fucks. Sure the trump voters were manipulated but it's like they didn't even try to think critically for a second.
The power of media saturation can't be understated. Bezos owns the WaPo, Musk owns Twitter, Gates owns NBC, the Murdochs and the Coors Family and The Kochs and the Sinclairs have a strangle hold on local news.
Literally where do you go to get serious journalism in an age where WikiLeaks is a criminal enterprise and The Espionage Act has been invoked against more journalists in the last fifteen years than the prior fifty.
Blaming voters in an era of industrial misinformation seems wildly misguided. You have people utterly saturated in war propaganda and blood libel. Even the liberals don't know who to support anymore.