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A new poll found that 71% of Trump voters oppose Medicaid cuts, while 82% of all voters reject them. Additionally, 60% of Trump voters said cutting food and nutrition programs is unacceptable.

Medicaid has become a key issue as House Republicans push for up to $2 trillion in budget cuts to advance Trump’s legislative agenda.

Their resolution directs the House Energy and Commerce Committee to find at least $880 billion in cuts.

This raises concerns that Medicaid, which covers 70 million people—mostly low-income and children—could be targeted despite GOP leaders downplaying benefit reductions.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Republican voters are mismatched with their representatives, but never seem to care.

Here in Wisconsin, a small but definite majority of Republican voters are in favor of legalized THC, and the issue is popular overall. The Republican congress refuses to even consider it.

At the federal level, look at what Republicans in congress have done about gun control. Oh, yes, they've stopped things like universal background checks, but their voters would also like things such as removing silencers from the NFA list (which doesn't exactly ban them, but makes it inconvenient and expensive) or repealing the Hughes Amendment (ban on all new registrations of automatic firearms since 1986; existing ones were grandfathered in). Connecting to the issue above, there's also broad support for removing the drug question off the ATF background check form 4473 for buying a gun, which the ATF insists you must say "yes" to and have the sale denied if you use THC, even in legalized states.

There's been bills submitted for some of this, but they aren't going anywhere. I think they're waiting on the courts to strike down much of this for them, but congress could just do it.

Bigger point is that Republicans don't do things for their voters. GOP voters also seem uninterested in holding their own representatives to account. As long as their representatives are hurting the right people, their voters don't care.

[–] finitebanjo 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Voters maybe. 0% congressmen.

Also its 79 Million people if you include CHIP.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Oh ye wanna know something funny.

When I was a kid, my parents would tell me, that "These White People don't want you here" (for context: I was born in Mainland China)

Now they eat their rightwing propaganda stright from Wechat and constantly blame democrats for the "migrant crisis", something like: "They are building shelters for illegal immigrants in NYC", bruh did they just forget WE ARE IMMIGRANTS (we are legal immigrants, but fascists don't distinguish).

[–] CharlesDarwin 34 points 9 hours ago

If you don't want Medicaid cuts, you should not vote for any Republican, ever.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 14 hours ago

And the same idiots would vote for him again in a heartbeat.

[–] electricyarn 127 points 18 hours ago (18 children)

Why did they vote for them?

[–] [email protected] 97 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

because the system they exist in keeps them in the dark, and is programming them to be fanatically terrified of being woken up

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds 39 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Exactly

Most rural "middle class" voters that fuel Red states are people who've been failed by the education system in one way or another, and distrust authority because of it. But they lack the media literacy to make distrust of authority positive. Instead, they are easily manipulated by crucial social figureheads.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

education system in red states in intentionally trashed by the gop to keep them thinking that way. in blue states its just neglected/underfunded in some areas. of thousands of people at my HS, the HS made it look like only a small handful are going to succeed in life and basically rubbing in the rest of student bodies face, "look at them and look at you, what do you have to show for it" everyone in the audience rolled thier eyes when they "paraded the high gpa earners, we know were being very condescending.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

"I distrust all authority except the ones that lie to me and make me feel good!"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Because they're made to believe that they're the underdog and so is the media they consume.

#1 news channel, #1 most viewed show Sean Hannity: "the main stream media are all liars!"

"Main stream" as if they aren't the most popular show...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Helps that the party hated the same groups they do which is very important, and has God by their side. Might not agree with everything, but God is the one pillar of belief they will stand by no matter how much everyone suffers.

A group the church promotes is the holy one. You wouldn't go against God would you just because those dirty heathens offer some enticing programs would you? That's a road straight to hell.

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[–] disguy_ovahea 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

They also live in areas with cable monopolies and no fiber alternative. You wouldn’t believe how aggressively the right-wing ads hammer these people every 15 minutes.

[–] rayyy 1 points 59 minutes ago

right-wing ads hammer these people every 15 minutes.

Are you counting Putin's psyops programs on social media as right wing too?

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Not even gonna mention the radio, my god. I work construction, there are rules about what's allowed on a jobsjte. Usually I'm on the side of "I don't wanna hear your radio and you don't wanna hear mine" because JAYSUS CHRIST the shit mfers like Jon Boy & Billy just casually throw out is atrocious

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago

Woken up? Are you talking about the woke mind virus, you dirty infected communist?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

If you really want to stop Trump from speed running a fascist takeover, you need to accept that this question isn't helpful.

The question to ask is, "How can we bring these people over to our side?"

They're primed and ready. They voted for things to get better (yes, that vote was stupid and ignorant and probably quite bigoted) and instead things are getting worse. Sieze this opportunity. Don't turn these people away when you could be turning them to the cause.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

These people aren't going to listen to Liberals who they all paint as radical communists. They see Liberals as even worse.

Change for them is going to have to come from conservative voices who want to take back their party with a new tea party type movement and replacing magats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

The people who paint all Liberals as radical communists aren't the people you're trying to reach. Don't make the mistake of assuming all Trump voters are a monolith, they're not. Remember, there was a sizeable crossover in people who voted for Trump and voted for AOC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

they voted for a culture war and bigotry, not realized they were being brainwashed by the same billionaires telling them otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Some of them voted for culture war. Some of them voted for cheaper eggs. Painting his voters as a monolith feels good, but it's self defeating.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No, that's why the dems lost in Nov. Fuck these people, get more people voting and stop chasing the right.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

See, absolutely nowhere in any of that did I say "Move your politics right."

This is a mistake I see a lot of leftists making, and it's going to be a fatal mistake if it's not rectified soon.

Dems lose by playing to the centre/right because they move their policies right to appeal to those voters. That's not remotely similar to what I'm talking about.

You should never compromise. Never. But by being uncompromising, while also being willing to meet people in the places where you share common ground, you can move them left.

That's exactly why Bernie would have been the right choice, in 2016 and in 2024. Because he's an uncompromising leftist who understands how to present those leftist ideas outside of just college campuses.

They're mad about Republicans attacking Medicaid and Social Security. That's an opportunity to get them thinking about how government programs actually benefit them. They're mad about the Republicans cutting taxes on the rich at the expense of everyone else. That's an opportunity to get them thinking about how deeply in thrall to oligarchs the Republicans really are. They're mad about high grocery prices and stagnant wages. That's an opportunity to get them thinking about how the government should be focused on helping them out instead of helping Elon Musk out. They're mad about rich coastal "elites." That's an opportunity to get them thinking about how a union would really help them stick it to those elites.

Not all of this will work. But if you're open to these conversations with enough people, some of it will get through. You have more in common with them than you think.

I'm not asking you to break bread with them, I'm not asking you to be their friend. But if you want to win this fight and save your country, you need everyone you can get on your side.

[–] Jaderick 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like there’s a common ground between schadenfreude and outreach to MAGAts that we should find.

You’re right in that this would be the moment that people might change their minds because of the consequences they wrought upon themselves…. But if someone voted for others to get hurt, and instead hurt themselves, there’s humor in that irony.

I agree that we have more in common than not, I point that out to every dipshit I talk to, but the amount of disrespect I’ve personally received when trying to discuss philosophies in good faith is ridiculous, even from family.

Half the time they start shouting angrily and the other half they start gaslighting. It’s truly hard to not outright say “yes you’re a fucking idiot” when someone gets defensive and says “well I guess you think I’m stupid, huh?”

There’s some rage we all collectively need to work through lmao.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I'm not suggesting that all Trump voters are reachable. A lot of them are just straight up bigots and fascists. A lot of them actually want all the vile shit he's doing. Yes, maybe those ones might have a come to Jesus moment if they realise how much he's fucking them with his giveaways to the rich, but it's a harder lift because they're still getting a lot of the things they want.

The people I'm talking about, the ones primed to turn against him, are the ones who promised themselves that all the vile stuff wouldn't actually happen, that it was just rhetoric, or smears by the leftist press or whatever. That he wasn't actually going to start self-destructive trade wars and deport all immigrants, and that he really truly would lower the price of eggs. A sizeable number of those voters do exist, sizeable enough that its worth having them on board.

I'm not saying anyone has to like or forgive any of these people, even the ones who voted out of ignorance or fear. But you need them on your side. You need everyone you can get.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

He hates the same people they hate, and they're willing to get hurt as long as those people are, too.

[–] braxy29 1 points 9 hours ago

maybe, i'm not sure. but those stats up there suggest maybe they are not willing to sacrifice themselves after all. i hope we can help them understand that society doesn't have to be a zero-sum game, which is what i think many of them have believed.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine 3 points 13 hours ago

"He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting" said dumbfuck malignant Trump voter the last time around before doing the exact same thing again. They for sure care about pain, but they love the pain of others more than they'll ever remember who caused their own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

probably the boomers on medicare that cant afford INSURANCE OTHERWISE. and additionally for low income who are on TYPE 2 diabetes medications.

[–] billiam0202 6 points 14 hours ago

Well, when Trump was speaking to them about how much he was going to hurt others, they heard that.

But when Trump was talking to the others about how much he was going to hurt them, they didn't hear that.

Trump told everybody what they wanted to hear. None of them heard what he was really saying.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Because they live in lala land. They will do anything but blame themselves.

My brother is almost 40. Severely obeses. Unemployed. And on assistance. He loves Trump and Musk. Every time they do something to fuck someone over? He goes ape shit like it's the best thing in the world. He's so happy. Because he doesn't understand that he's literally in the demographic that they refer to as worthless. He's the sponge on benefits that they hate and he literally cannot recognize or reconcile that fact....

It's so fucking wild to witness.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

i bet hes on type 2 diabetes medication, like insulin, and HBP meds, and high cholesterol meds,.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

I know a person like this. Another person who's a leftist who lives overseas and apparently doesn't like trump but thinks the dems are worse and repeats trump rhetoric like it's gospel. Oh and also is a Putin apologist (seems to be a lot of crossover there).

And one more who is actually Canadian but somehow still a MAGA manosphere incel and says most of what trump says he will do is fake news, until he does it and then he gaslights and comes up with excuses. No accountability for daddy trump or his little boys.

[–] WaxiestSteam69 6 points 16 hours ago

Everytime I see one of these posts I scream to myself "What did they think they were getting?!" We knew who Trump was and what he was going to do.

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[–] Bonesince1997 35 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Wow what a bunch of dumbfucks then. Yeah vote for the gold plated guy.

[–] Professorozone 10 points 15 hours ago

It's because they know billionaires have their best interests in mind.

[–] Placebonickname 6 points 16 hours ago

I would not be surprised to find out that Donald Trump is so out of touch with a common person that he thinks the healthcare.gov market place is where people sell their extra organs.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago

I saw this same poll on r/conservative being wildly misconstrued

[–] Diplomjodler3 17 points 17 hours ago

Who could possibly have seen that coming?

[–] ATDA 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

"Trump said he wouldn't..."

He's a liar. Republicans aren't squeamish on cutting anything. He's a Republican and a liar. Do the fucking math idiots.

[–] FuglyDuck 2 points 13 hours ago

He also said he would. Numerous times

[–] [email protected] 11 points 18 hours ago

If you goof around near the edge of a cliff, don't be upset when you fall off.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver 8 points 17 hours ago

Ha, stupid fucks.

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