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Summary

Trump’s border czar, Tom Homan, admitted that finding undocumented immigrants with criminal records has been difficult, requiring full ICE teams for field raids.

Arrest numbers, around 14,000 in Trump’s first month, are below the administration’s 1,500-per-day goal.

Homan blamed sanctuary cities for not cooperating with federal immigration enforcement. He vowed to increase enforcement teams and denied mass school or church raids, though ICE may target specific criminals.

The administration has stopped publishing daily arrest figures, despite a drop in immigration arrests since November.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

It's almost like it was a completely manufactured issue... Fancy that.

[–] CharlesDarwin 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wow, they are so close to figuring it out!

Maybe immigration, outside of the Faux Cinematic Universe, was not some major concern?

[–] Zess 7 points 3 days ago

The GOP spent so many decades carefully manufacturing their lines of bullshit and now Trump is coming along trying to fix their fake problems lmao

[–] [email protected] 162 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Maybe cause the "crisis" was over inflated to begin with? Also cause people generally don't like this idea in practice.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I remember seeing recently that they found 3 of the names who got sent to Guantanamo. 2 of the families they found and asked and both said they presented papers from their embassy showing their family members weren't criminals.

The number of people who are going to be sent to fill quotas over actually having ever done something horrible is going to be staggering

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Sooooo just like the regular US Prison system.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Don't you love it for your lunch break in the local quick serving restaurant to be interrupted by armed men yelling at everyone and then you get to go back to work distressed and hungry?

[–] [email protected] 103 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"Well, we'll just have to scoop up random brown people, I guess. Gotta keep those numbers up."

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I wonder how long before that actually happens - weeks or months?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's been happening for years

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

And recently in some communities, ICE agents are going door to door and molesting people at schools and churches.

[–] Placebonickname 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not sure about molesting, but once in Arizona I was jogging and took a turn through a hilly golf area and someone called the cops. Was not carrying an ID and had to wait for someone from Davis Monthan AFB to vouch for me before I could be released.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'm definitely using the term broadly, it doesn't always mean to sexually assault, basically they're just being fucked with for simply existing or going to church or school. That being said, I wouldn't put it past them if given the opportunity, ICE is at least that morally bankrupt.

Sorry to hear that you got fucked with for daring to go near "the white land", they're pieces of shit like that.

Gotta ask, it sounds like you are a veteran or family of one. Did they even change their attitude towards you once they knew? Or did they get mad because you ruined their fun?

[–] Placebonickname 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well no, there attitude did not change on the grounds that you can serve, but that doesn’t make you a citizen, so they did not know what to do - Stop and Frisk was used to stop “non citizens”… but they also didn’t know that South Korea wasn’t part of South America so I’m not dealing with the most cultured people here.

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[–] MuskyMelon 9 points 4 days ago

ICE have been brownshirts-in-reserve from the very beginning.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It has been happening. My Eastern European friends don't go anywhere without their passports right now and my Latin American friends have shifted all their behaviors. You don't need to wonder if it will be weeks or months, you need to be wondering how long ago it started

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The reason sanctuary cities exist is because law enforcement in those cities needs community buy-in to help solve other more important crimes. A witness to a murder or a victim of domestic violence might not come forward if they are undocumented and might get deported for talking to the police.

No way to really track it because by definition they're going unreported but I can only imagine what kind of horror show is going unreported due to these raids.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You know, normal, thoughtful, people would take that as a cue to re-evaluate their position... Maybe it's difficult to find them because they don't fucking exist?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They are a scape goat. It doesn't matter if they exist or not if they can sell the narrative.

Crime could be at record lows but they'll say "Crime is so high, we need to send in police until crime comes down."

They know full well it's a lie, but they know enough people won't double check them and take them at their word. In their minds crime is at an all time high instead.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I commented the gun numbers the other day. Its fairly obvious that red states have much more violent crime when it comes to guns. Surely their propoganda doesn't have anything to do with it.

Edit: Deaths per 100,000 people by gunshots

Mississippi 29.4 Louisiana 28.1 Alabama 25.7 New Mexico 25.3 Alaska 23.6 Tennessee 22.2 Arkansas 22 Montana 21.7 Wyoming 21.6 Missouri 21.4 Oklahoma 20.1 South Carolina 19.3 Georgia 18.8 Arizona 18.7 Nevada 18.5 Indiana 18.4 Kentucky 18.4 Idaho 18.2 West Virginia 16.8 Colorado 16.7 North Carolina 16.7 Kansas 16.3 Texas 15.1 Ohio 15 Utah 15 Maine 14.1 Oregon 14.1 Florida 13.9 Virginia 13.9 Michigan 13.8 Pennsylvania 13.6 Illinois 13.5 Washington 13.1 North Dakota 12.9 Wisconsin 12.7 South Dakota 12.5 Maryland 12.3 Vermont 12.1 Delaware 12.1 Nebraska 10.7 Iowa 10.6 New Hampshire 9.7 Minnesota 9 California 8 Connecticut 6.2 Hawaii 4.9 Rhode Island 4.8 New York 4.7 New Jersey 4.6 Massachusetts 3.7

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've complained about gun culture being the biggest issue leading to gun deaths before. I'm not a huge fan of gun control as a lot of the left discuss it and my issue with labeling gun laws "common sense" causes a dissidence in people heads where anyone disagreeing not having common sense.

But the rhetoric of "fuck around and find out" and "come and try that here" underpins a thought process that guns are an acceptable solution to problems. And not just acceptable, but on equal footing with other solutions such as running away, defusing or de-escalating the situation, discussions, and compromises. It's where you see things like Kyle Rittenhouse or "You're Fucked" being inscribed on the AR used in the murder of Daniel Shaver in Mesa, AZ by the police.

Whereas I believe guns are the final solution to a problem. And imo, one that we all should be reticent to use but ultimately have available to us. They are to be used as a last resort to threats against life and liberty.

The gun culture, mixed with the propaganda of everyone everywhere being a potential threat to you is a leading cause of gun violence.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

That's never been an issue for the MAGA people. See also: trans people being any kind of problem to anyone.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What a colossal waste of resources.

[–] minkymunkey_7_7 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The Final Solution too in Germany was a colossal waste of resources, in fact made them lose the war way faster. It completely undermined the entire German war effort.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Imagine conscripting 12M people and then getting your professional army to just kill them instead. Why didn't they go for some kind of service ensures citizenship, send them to the worst areas like Stalingrad. Still awful but then might have helped the war going on.

You know what, I don't need to give Hitler tips.

[–] TrueStoryBob 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's because of their ideology. To Hitler's government, the extermination of the Jews as well as the mentally/physically challenged, the Roma, and all kinds of LGBTQ was seen as being as important as knocking France out of commission, bombing Britain to capitulation, or destroying the Soviet Union. The Holocaust wasn't seen as some side project, it was an actual war goal and taken as seriously as anything else in the war.

Don't look for it to make sense, little of Nazi ideology makes sense.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

This reflects one of the many flaws with the logic of people who thought Trump was only going to go after the criminals.

The thing about criminals is, they don't follow the law. It's in their interest to not be easy to find.

So, ICE, whose job it is to make Trump look good to his base by deporting brown people, don't go after murderers or rapists, because that is hard and they're barely qualified to begin with. They go after the people who are abiding by the law, whose exact legal status is unclear because our whole fucking system works against its own interests. They go against the people who are legal who Trump has stripped some status from. Because it's easy to find them and they're less likely to put up a fight.

[–] randon31415 42 points 4 days ago

ICE: Fixed number of people.

Biden: "Focus on the places that want to work with you, like Texas."

Trump: "Focus on sanctuary cities and places that will resist deportation at all costs."

Deportation numbers: Goes down.

Trump: "I don't understand what went wrong?"

ICE: "If we stop publishing numbers, COVID is over! Er, I mean, all the immigrants are gone!"

[–] werefreeatlast 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They keep finding brown citizens instead.

[–] Ensign_Crab 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

I half suspect that this isn't actually about it being "hard." It's to say they need more allowances. They're saying them being "nice" with only their current resources isn't getting the job done as an excuse to expand their scope and capabilities. This isn't things getting better. This is the precursor to things getting much worse.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago

"Man I'm having a hard time finding the ~~Jews~~ Mexicans I volunteered to sign up to round up. Was I swindled into obeying a fascist state? Nah, must be the Mexicans who are sneaky, they can cloak!"

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 17 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I hate the use of the word czar in this context, my pedantic historian brain knows it means “Caesar” and the meaning makes no sense

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

And it being the Russian version doesn't make it better.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago

It's almost like a non-issue.

[–] trag468 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A quick google suggests that there are over 400k non-citizens with criminal convictions in the US. Even with such a large number it seems like it would be really hard to locate and apprehend 1,500 of them each day. It's not like ICE wasn't trying before! It's just more ridiculous theatrics. I feel bad for all the normal immigrant families that are living in fear because of this nonsense.

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[–] tym 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

On one hand, there's an implied admission of boundaries in denying mass raids.

On the other hand, past tactics would imply that the only concern is overcoming the boundary, not submitting to it.

They're regrouping. They know the collective lack of attention span is an asset they can leverage.

[–] Gammelfisch 4 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The fucking cry baby should raid the farms in the rural red run welfare counties. I do not give a shit if the ICE agent is not vaccinated for the measles, send their asses.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Daily arrest is a KPI to be gamed soon, rich MAGA people, who profits on this narrative, can just pay Mexico gangs to send some people in to get arrested.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

What's border czar doing in metropolitan areas? The border is all way over there in the south.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Keep resisting. Protect your neighbors.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Anyone got a guide on, like, how to modify modern houses to build secret rooms to hide people?

I hate to say this, but I guess well need to be hiding people in our houses to protect them from ICE like the Germans his Jews to protect them from the gestapo.

Better to start the construction now

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