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Summary

Army officials are exploring ways to rename Fort Liberty back to Fort Bragg without violating laws prohibiting Confederate names.

Fort Bragg, originally named after Confederate General Braxton Bragg, was changed in 2023 following a congressional mandate. Trump vowed to reverse the change, and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has fueled speculation.

One option under consideration is renaming it after another soldier named Bragg.

Costs for the initial renaming exceeded $6 million.

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[–] moshankey 88 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Because these things are important.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 days ago

Well, how would you make eggs affordable then? /s

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

They are to fascists.

[–] NatakuNox 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can't have people thinking something like "liberty" is actually achievable. Better to have slave owning, anti equality, morally dubious, women raping, and pro oligarchy symbols on military institutions so people know what's coming.

[–] CharlesDarwin 4 points 4 days ago

Given how these asshats have tried to appropriate terms like liberty (and freedom, and patriotism, and liberalism, and on and on) you'd think they would be okay with it called "Fort Liberty".

I mean, look at "Liberty University" - that place is in no way interested in liberty in any meaning of the term that normal people understand liberty to mean.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Jerb322 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why do thier stories always turn out so sad? Received every US award and a couple from other countries, but still died with money problems and PTSD.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because as much as Americans cosplay caring about wounded veterans, the truth is that they are just the slag byproduct of the profitability of war. A token effort is made to placate the loudest of them while the rest are quietly pushed into the dim corners of our economy, being told they should be proud of their minimum wage job at Home Depot while they privately drink themselves to death.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bingo. Republicans love sending them to get fucked up and hate taking care of the survivors. The democrats at least keep the lights on at VA clinics but that pales in comparison to the slashing of funds by the Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Only 18% of veterans get all of the benefits they're entitled to.

[–] CharlesDarwin 4 points 4 days ago

Isn't it weird how the monsters on the right use phrases like "support the troops" in nearly the exact fucking opposite way most people would interpret that to mean?

In their use of that term, it's aimed at anyone taking issue with the foreign adventures some Republican President is scheming to get us into....as far as actually supporting them once they are used up and thrown away, well fuck that, I guess.

[–] AbidanYre 11 points 4 days ago

If we can't name things after traitors and enemies we'll never be able to name anything after Trump.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (5 children)

But why though? I know Fort Liberty is a stupid name, and probably should be named after a decorated soldier, but this ain't it. Maybe name it after Chesty Puller, that'd be good for morale.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago

I'm not sure naming an Army base after a Marine would improve morale. I would love to hear the shit talk if that happened though. But yeah I'm sure there are plenty of people worthy of the honor, which a confederate is certainly not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Could we just stop naming things after people and just stick to numbers? Army fort 22,490, Naval base 1476, etc

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Because your conservative friends are big fans of racism and the confederacy.

This can be seen in their voting history, support for statues made as part of the revisionism that took place in the early 1900s, etc.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer 7 points 4 days ago

Probably because Puller was a marine not a soldier, and he already has a mobile dock and the freaking mascot of the entire corps named after him?

[–] SarcasticMan 2 points 4 days ago

Hehe Fort Puller hehe more like Fart Puller am I right wink wink nudge nudge.

[–] Bieren 7 points 4 days ago

It’s Fayetteville. Call it what it is…fort shithole.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

If they change it back under Trusk, it’d be unambiguously and unapologetically to the Confederate general.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Just rename it to Fort This Cotton Won't Pick Itself, that way it's named after the ideals and not the man.

[–] CharlesDarwin 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If only the North had spent some time on utterly crushing, and then de-nazifying (or de-magafying in today's parlance), and then spending lots of money on re-educating the children - since many of the parents were probably a lost cause - the South after the Civil War. And putting lots and lots of laws in place to keep them from honoring any of these fucking traitors in any way.

I really do wonder how many people that set up Germany post WWII set things up in that way by learning lessons from the history of the American South....

[–] rottingleaf -1 points 4 days ago

They were not so thoroughly defeated to be utterly crushed. And you forgot that the North wasn't too different.

That one group of people today chooses one role model from the past, and the other another, doesn't mean anything here is about the past. Not that past anyway, Reagan perhaps.

About Germany - it was divided in two parts, one received your proposed treatment, another didn't (the baddies were in fact given a lot of important posts and weren't really prosecuted, also till early 70s polls showed the opinion that National Socialism is a good ideology as pretty common). One has a lot of neo-Nazis and conservatives now, another doesn't. The one that didn't receive your treatment doesn't. This shows that you can't force people to think the way you want.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 1 points 4 days ago

Oh "the Army" is, is "the Army"?

Maaaan- Fuck "the Army".