Unions have a long and violent history of not wanting to be fucked with, we'll see how well this plays out for the orange Cunt
this post was submitted on 02 Feb 2025
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For those that would like to read up on the subject
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_violence_in_the_United_States
These are a bunch of civil servants, not tradespeople. Trade unions are the ones you don't fuck with.
Piss enough people off and it don't matter the flavor of union
I suspect trades unions might join with them in solidarity. The civil servants would have to put themselves on the line, but I think they would have support.
Welp....
The fuck? Shawn Fain supports tariffs?!?
Dude what the fuck is happening?
Well the context is, he supports tariffs that protect American factory jobs. He supports investing in worker protections and domestic factories. He’s basically saying that when American factories exist for a product, products made elsewhere with cheaper foreign labor should have tariffs on them to raise the price of those foreign goods to protect domestic workers. That is actually a reasonable position.
What is not a reasonable position is imposing tariffs when we have no domestic production while simultaneously destroying American worker protections to ensure that we continue to have no domestic production and that workers have even less than they did before.
Yeah. That first bit is competition law essentially, the guy seems to get a bit confused though. Trump might speak to the little guy, but he’s not speaking to defend them.
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Just a friendly reminder that multiple Roman emperors were killed by bureaucrats.
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Yeah, that's my concern I've worked with the civil servants. They're angry all the time but never do anything.
Surely there must be a few of them that arenot "angry and lazy"?
There must be at least a few that make the Government actually function?
I'm not saying they're lazy I'm just saying they are not going to do anything about being angry.
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First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Get up and get to it folks. Get sabotage manuals etc while you can, and try to do so using Tor.
Throw out the Union contact? Then union members need to... go on strike. That's the power they have, and the only reason we've been able to get some worker protections.
That's also pretty damn close to what Trump genuinely wants - for everyone currently doing the work to quit. That way he can install lackeys across the board.
Strikes normally work because the other side wants something - usually the business owner wants labor to create a product. That isn't the case here.
I'm not saying it's pointless, but the classic strategies will need to be rethought.
unions around the country need to join in sympathy strikes
Half the unions will be dissolved due to lack of work shortly, anyway.
Sympathy strikes are illegal in the US. Not saying wildcat strikes wouldn’t be justified, but there is a deliberate policy to undermine this type of broader solidarity.
Who cares if they are illegal, they want us to be afraid. I'd say do the stikes, what they gonna do arrest everyone in the country?
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Are there enough lackeys? If quality falls through the floor as well, won't it just further cement how dumb this whole strategy is? We may be taking lessons that it'll take a few years to learn but...
Then they just privatize it and give it all to their wealthy buddies. For the things that they will even bother replacing... They want this shit to fail and they will replace most of it with nothing.
Creation is always more difficult than destruction, and none of our society was built without some kind of need. Most people like to build with others. Some take advantage of that spirit and become leaders for the sake of leading. Only morons would simultaneously covet power and actively work against people's basic motivations.
I am working with others to actively fight should it come to that. But no matter what, we escaped the dark ages once, we'll do so again.
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They want to destroy the administrative state. A strike only helps them further that goal. They just won't even bother negotiating.
The reason they have contracts is so they can take this to court instead of striking.
However, after this goes through a bunch of courts and ends up in the "supreme" one....
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All I have to say, and I said it on that day of the RNC, but fuck that union guy for actually thinking the GOP gave 2 shots about unions after generations of fighting like Hell to gut them. Also fuck him for not endorsing the candidate who, while not necessarily a friend of unions, certainly wouldn’t have been actively working against them.
I mean I can understand him not wanting to endorse Kamala when she directly told him we can win with or without you. That doesn't exactly sound like the kind of person you would want to endorse if they don't even seem to really care about you or the people you represent. But yeah endorsing Trump was a stupid move, he really should have just not endorsed either of them.
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Hah! The presidency sure does provide a lot of power but he's about to find out just where that ends. If 800,000 workers go on strike he and his cronies won't be able to exist in their rich person bubbles.
The runways will be closed. The borders won't let them in or out. Public transport everywhere will stop functioning. The banks will be forced to stop letting them send money due to laws regarding transaction reporting that go through Federal union employees (I mean, I guess they could try to live their rich person lives with nothing but transactions under $10,000 🤷).
Just about everything going on in the US from a logistics and economic perspective relies on the work of Federal union employees. They don't even need to go on strike (which would technically be illegal but if Trump doesn't need to follow the law why should federal employees‽). They could just reduce everything to a crawl and it would have the same effect.
I'm so tired of people proclaiming that NOW finally, Trump will see the consequences of his chaotic stupidity and petulant egocentrism!
No, he's not going to "find out" anything, because he does not give a fuck who suffers and his supporters will gargle his balls no matter what he does.
You're absolutely right about the consequences of this latest crime, except for the part where Trump in any way feels anything negative about the experience.
No, he does care who suffers. It's his entire goal.
That's a misconception about narcissists. He really doesn't care, as long as he benefits. He's a team of one, and everything else is negotiable.
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Hes trying to get them to quit. Going on strike would actually help him achieve his goals by repalcing them with more loyalist
I don't think there are enough loyalists. These are technical jobs amongst other things.
I do think he wants everyone to quit and be replaced. I don't think he cares if the role is filled by someone qualified or not. That's my fear, this is truly to wreck the US.
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There are enough already in those positions. Even heavily biased industries rarely get close to being dominated by one political party. The 'liberal white towers' of academia are only something like 1:6 Dem/left:Rep/right, and that's usually one of the extremes that republicans bitch about. They'd bitch about other industries if they were anywhere close. I would bet there are enough lackeys and people who feel neutral that the oh-so-important people don't feel much negative blowback.
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You can be fired for striking in the USA? Thats wank if so.
For a good example of striking employees getting fired, see: the air traffic controller/PATCO strike under Reagan in 1981.
This is painting it with very broad strokes, but you can essentially be fired because they don’t like the color of your shirt buttons in most places (“at-will employment”). Sure, there technically has to be a reason, but your employer can find one.
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It’s time for a general strike
yes, yes it is. now how do we organize 15-30% of the country for meaningful direct action?
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contracts involving federal law enforcement would be exempted
So Biden’s contracts are still legitimate if saying otherwise would upset the thug class
Go Teamsters!