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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by mortalic to c/asklemmy
 

With bitwarden changing to at least email auth required, I'm one of those that stores my email creds there. I don't want to risk losing my email so it seems I need to use an Authenticator. For work, I have microsoft auth but that makes me want to die a little.

EDIT: I appreciate you all, thank you.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

~~Self-host Vaultwarden so you can keep using BitWarden?~~

Nevermind, misread.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Yubikey + Yubico app covers all my needs and is technically the most secure option

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

If you already have Microsoft authenticator just use that. They're all basically the same

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 week ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Can confirm. It does everything you'd want it to do.

https://github.com/beemdevelopment/Aegis

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I switched from Google Authenticator to Aegis and have had no problems.

[–] macattack 7 points 1 week ago

One more upvote for aegis

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago
[–] SidewaysHighways 4 points 1 week ago

thanks for this!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Been with aegis through 4 devices and absolutely love it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] mortalic 1 points 1 week ago

The fact it's in fdroid is great

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

I use Aegis for personal and work stuff. Works great, is open source and initiates no network connections anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Huge fan of Ente Auth as well. Completely open source and available on F-Droid. Offers encrypted backups with cloud options so you can easily restore between devices if needed.

I swear it used to state if they ever had to charge for it free accounts would be grandfathered in, but now it just says free. Guessing the photo service covers its cost.

Ente photos is also awesome. I'm a huge fan and subscriber.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

I use FreeOTP. Open source tickles me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Open version called vault warden lets you put 2FA in the app. That said, I'm not of the camp that wants to put their password and code generator in the same place so I still use Aegis for the tokens.

[–] DragonsInARoom 10 points 1 week ago

Aegis (fdroid)

[–] SuperIce 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I typically use Bitwarden for my 2fa keys and passkeys. For Bitwarden itself, I have a Yubikey and my phone registered as passkeys. I also used to use Duo for 2fa in the past, but I prefer Bitwarden.

[–] mortalic 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I did not realize they had an authenticator... That would be convenient. I think I'll do that.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres 4 points 1 week ago

I second Bitwarden. It’s open source and automatically copies the number to your clipboard. Migrating can be a pain in the ass but once you’re done, it’s great.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nitrokey or yubikey if you have the key , or Aegis if only want to use an app

[–] mortalic 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think I need an education. What do you mean if I have the key? When I look at bitwarden settings, I do see a setting for "Log in with passkey" but it's different than the Two-step login. EDIT: wait, I think I see, under the two-step login there are providers for Authenticator app, Passkey, yubico key, or duo. I think I get it now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

yubikey and nitrokey are physical keys

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I use proton pass but IDK if it's good to warn against them now as they appear to support fascists

[–] letsgo2themall 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've used andOTP for years and it's served me well. and it's FOSS

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] letsgo2themall 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I did not realize that. Im trying out Aegis and it seems like a good replacement so far.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I've used Aegis myself since andOTP was abandoned and I'm still very happy with that solution.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Thanks for this, I also have been using andOTP for years (and before that its earlier fork OTP Authenticator), didn't realize its development went dormant too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

whatever you choose, keep the 2FA recovery codes to at least bitwarden on paper, in a safe place

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] beirdobaggins 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doesn't turn 2fa into 1fa?

I like to know that even if someone got into my bitwarden vault they would still not be able login to my most important stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

This is a different app from bitwarden PW manager.

[–] LemmyFeed 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't want my password manager to also have the ability to generator 2fa codes, gotta keep em separated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

This is a different app from bitwarden PW manager.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

It's a different app, made by the same company.

[–] sep 2 points 1 week ago

I used tobuse authy. Mainly for the desktop to phone sync feature. The desktop got removed unfortunatly. So i am looking as well

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

whatever you choose, keep the 2FA recovery codes to at least bitwarden on paper, in a safe place

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

My email is what I consider to be an important password so its in my offline password manager.

[–] LemmyFeed 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I use LastPass authenticator for 2fa (note, I do not store any passwords in LastPass)

This way the authenticator accounts sync to my LastPass account and make device migration a breeze, I simply just sign into LastPass and then I can use authenticator immediately on the new device.

You could also use Microsoft authenticator (again with no passwords saved) to achieve the same thing.

I just didn't want to bother with exporting and importing 2fa accounts when getting a new phone. Or worse, if my phone fails unexpectedly I don't want to be unable to generate codes.

[–] mortalic 1 points 1 week ago

This is really sold advice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I use 1password. It's fine. I haven't tried much other stuff, but it works well, but I don't think there is a free option so it might not be a good pick. There is also Google Authenticator which works fine and is free.

[–] asmoranomar -2 points 1 week ago

At the risk of sounding snarky, why is this a deal breaker? I can recover both bitwarden and my email if I was ever in a situation where I forgot one or both passwords. It also only occurs in a situation where you are signing into devices that you've never logged in to or purposely logged out of. I do use 2FA, but even if I did not it sounds like a lot of complaining about a situation that you should already be prepared for. Bitwarden could easily go down or your password vault could be corrupted or (at worse case) your vault compromised and passwords stolen. Make plans for such situations and you'll realize this is mostly a knee-jerk reaction to a non-issue.