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OpenAI chief executive Sam Altman accused of sexual abuse by sister in lawsuit (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 3 days ago by timewarp to c/fuck_ai

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Wasn't Adam savage accused of a similar thing?

I'm not a huge fan of AI, but I dunno if jumping on anything that could paint one of the CEO"s in a negative light is the best approach. I feel the anti-ai position will lose credibility if in the future these accusations are disproven, similar to Adam Savage's accusations.

[–] timewarp 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Savage lawsuit was never disproven, instead he settled despite saying he'd fight it to the end. Do you think because he settled that he is innocent?

This isn't just "anything" either, but an actual lawsuit that you can monitor & read the court documents yourself. All I know is that I experienced something similar from a sibling. It messed me up for a long time. Going through that as a kid is terrible because you're so innocent & don't even know how messed up it is. Then later in life when you finally do decide to talk about it to try to heal, your family will say things like... "You must have imagined it."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry you went through that, and I'm certainly not tying to downplay the experience of anyone having gone through such events. I hope if Sam's sister did experience these things that she has the full support of her family.

I don't know the details of the savage lawsuit honestly, but often settling is far cheaper than a long drawn out fight. There was thr court case against Andy Baio by the photographer who took the photos that was used on Miles Davis' Kind of Blue album. Andy settled out of court and put out this statement discussing it.

Not to say Adams or Sam's stories are at all related to their case, but these things are extremely imperfect with guilty parties often going on to reoffend leaving further damage in their wake.

I still believe that hating ai based on "guilt by association" may weaken the perceived position, even if the criticism and accusations are absolutely warranted and deserved.

[–] timewarp 3 points 3 days ago

Well, I don't hate AI. I just hate that it brings out some of the worst in humanity that it will prob get controlled by corrupt oligarchs who do things like this.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Adam Savage the Mythbusters guy?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yep.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Wow. I had no idea. That sucks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can't say I'm surprised.

[–] rottingleaf 3 points 3 days ago

He even looks as if this wasn't the worst offense of this kind in their family tree.