I thought he declared one sex?
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Trump's new sex definitions are impossible for anyone to meet. Everyone is legally nonbinary now. https://medium.com/@viridiangrail/trump-says-americans-are-all-intersex-not-female-b31f97ffd80d
Imagine; all of this to prevent trans folks from using the women’s restroom… but now we can all use the women’s restroom by way of Executive Order. What a time to be alive!
I'm pretty sure now we all MUST use the women's restroom as we're all legally female.
So they just denied the Judeo-Christian yhwh, because that being is androgyne.
Ah, yes.
Trump will surely change his mind after reading their sternly written letter, because as we all know, Trump truly cares about science.
And he can't read, at least not big words with more than 2 syllables.
Changing his mind isn't the goal. He constantly already does that for the highest bidder. The people who have to enforce this stuff and the courts that have to rule on it are the ones who need to be well aware of its nonsense, and the bigger of a mess that causes, the better.
He totally reads written reports too.
As usual President Felon is talking out his ass, doing nothing for Americans, and being led by the nose by christian fascists. Someone please get that man 25 buckets of KFC. Cardiac event in 3-2...
conflates sex and gender
I read the order. It explicitly avoids defining gender and says that only sex should be used everywhere (which it does define, but incorrectly).
It basically says that the government doesn't care about your gender, they just want to know what's in your pants (or used to be).
they just want to know what’s in your pants (or used to be).
At the moment of conception....
Of course that's the real poison pill of this. The real intention is to declare personhood at conception... and pave the way for the nation wide abortion ban. Making things worse for trans people, is just the decoy.
If they declare personhood at conception some pregnant women should demand to be allowed to purchase a life insurance policy, and immediately sue when denied.
The levels of chaos that can come from this are off the charts... Yeah someone can purchase life insurance on an unborn child... at the same time every miscarriage is on the board for manslaughter/homicide, basically leading mothers to prove that the miscariages were not intended or negligent. The ramifications and definitions of things are outright terrifying.
At the moment of conception...
Doesn’t everyone start out female and then become male or stay female?
Conception is literally the point when the sperm fertilizes the egg:
Conception (or fertilization) is when sperm and an egg join together.
At that point it's not anything, it's just a fertilized egg. Assigning a sex to it makes no sense at all.
So everyone should be no sex then?
At conception, yes, there is no sexual differentiation. In humans the SRY protein is responsible for a fetus developing male sexual characteristics. The effects of this gene are expressed after week 6 of development:
SRY gene effects normally take place 6–8 weeks after fetus formation which inhibits the female anatomical structural growth in males. It also works towards developing the secondary sexual characteristics of males.
That is, at least a month and a half after conception.
Doesn't it have a complete set of sex chromosomes at that point?
As far as I an aware, yes. But the degree did not mention chromosomes, but rather
the sex that produces the large reproductive cell And the sex that produces the small reproductive cell
Executive order ‘ripped’, or maybe ‘blasted’ or whatever the latest word for ‘we made some tiny lil vid or headline saying maybe it wasn’t the best.’ I’m so sick of it. Sick of the way media portrays things. That’s it, the media has been SLAMMED by me, ripped, blasted, smoked! Whatever bullshit that basically means ‘we disagree, but have no teeth’ bleh
If you want to see how history is going to play out on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_10450
What about intersex people?
Everyone who does not fit into their categories, and everyone who cares about people who don't fit into their categories, needs to understand that you don't and can't fight Nazis by proving them wrong in an argument. You have to fight Nazis by fighting them. Also understand that you will be on their list of targeted "misfits" soon enough, so fight in solidarity with everyone who already is.
Cured. Thank you Mrs. Trump for clearing that up so easily.
It's such a fucking stupid argument everyone is a human just get rid of male and female and sex all together.
Get rid of sex altogether? I'm already ahead of the curve
I am hypersexual, and I need sex.
Fuck you! I am a helicopter.
How..uh..how does a helicopter type stuff on the internet?
One doesn't need fingers to send text.
You'll have to complete in sports regardless, no more weight classes, no woman league, no special handicaps for helicopters. Your either good enough to compete or not. Also shame on you for what your people did to Kobe.
Fair. Get on my level. Eat shit. I'm ....... a helicopter. Get hellfired. Peace.
Yeah you're a Robinson R-22
It is possible to give someone a concussion with only words. The key is, saying something so ghastly against what they believe and backing it up with as much fact as possible they literally concuss themselves with the fight they produce in their own mind against the encroaching reality they simply don't want to believe exists. That girl that's being mean to you when you haven't even talked to her. Tell her when she turns 30 the only men interested in her will be college guys that want to run a train. At 40 she'll need a friend to come along or they won't join. This crushes her self image of an "alpha sexual being" and forces the reality she is actually an aging mortal with a ticking clock on her ovaries. You should play with your own variation because if everyone says what I said, it loses potency. Kinda how calling them future cat ladies doesn't bite as much as it did in the 80's because everyone did it. Or calling everyone a Nazi loses potency when you do it all the time. Think along the lines of actually plausible. "When you turn 40 you better have a good education you'll need it to pay for sex", or, "you're so stupid you're definitely walking in a snow storm for groceries for you and your senior cat when you're no longer pretty enough to get guys to do it for you." Give them a chance to process, and don't even try to talk to them after, let them retreat to their friends and adapt to their new existence. They might do baby talk. Its hilarious. I hope someone verbally concusses trump. He has earned it. Idk with his age and past covid exposure if he would be fit to do more than drool... Probably work if someone had hunter biden level evidence against one of trumps kids. Messes up his dynasty.